HOW LIKELY an ORTIZ WIN?

Wilder has been rocked hard by people like Molina and Dauphaus (Spelling?) he's there to be rocked and dropped but he's fought a succession of low caliber opposition. Stiverne 1 is a good win after that there is little else.

He was being outboxed by Washington, hurt badly by Molina if that's Josuha or Ortiz get him like that fights over.
He's athletic and fast and has some power behind the right and the way he throws means he puts everything behind his shots but he has lots of holes and flaws that top class opponents should be able to exploit.

 

I think it's Wilder's fight to lose, he is too big and powerful. Ortiz is hittable.. and that is the problem for him.

 

Quite likely, I think. I've had Ortiz winning this since day 1 and I plan to stand by that

 

It makes business sense. Wilder needs a fight to prove himself as a serious champ in order to A increase his leverage for purse percentage against AJ and B increase hype and exposure in US to allow for the possibility of a mega clash against AJ in US.

And before you say it, yes I know Ortiz doesn't have a big following, but that's beside the point. He has a big reputation among those who know what they are talking about, and that has $ value. Both in the Wilder Ortiz fight itself and in establishing Wilder, if he wins, as a real serious threat to AJ. Or do you think Canelo GGG numbers were because both had a big following?

Finally, let's say everything you say or imply is true. Let's say Al Haymon paid Ortiz 100k to take a fall against Wilder. Clearly Haymon isn't going to pay more than that, as you say, he is a businessman and it would make no sense. What possible incentive does Ortiz have to follow through with that? If he wins, he'll get many times that in a single title defense. Hell, he could agree to a 90/10 split against AJ and IMMEDIATELY get a few million.

I know you hate Wilder, there is plenty to dislike about him, but your conspiracy theory makes absolutely no sense.

 

15% chance at best

 

I'm pretty excited about this fight. REALLY hoping Ortiz manages the upset, not just because I actually put some money on it haha

 

Ortiz looks slow and very old in recent fights. Even too slow to jump on openings that wilder presents. Ortiz also does not represent an elusive target he is right there in front of you the whole time.

I would rate this fight at 90/10 in Wilders favour.

Ortiz probably doesn’t have the speed or athleticism to land on Wilder, and for him to win he needs to land on him. Wilders jerk back reflex defence will be sufficient to avoid the slow attacks from Ortiz.

 

This is why I hate boxing,what with Ward v Kovalev,GGG v Canelo it’s hard to have confidence in these big fights in the knowledge that it’s all gonna be above board,just got a bad feeling Wilder v Ortiz will be a psy op,that said all things being equal I still have Wilder winning,not on account of him having superior skills but his tenacity to hang in and find that highlight knockout no matter how late makes him favourite in my book.