How long before Ali recedes to being a #2 or #3 heavyweight, except for boxing hipsters?

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  1. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    like your earlier opinions yes
     
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  2. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Which ones?
     
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  3. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When will I, will I be Seamus?
     
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  4. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    opinions, dont worry. opinions are just opinions, not facts.
     
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  5. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    By definition, yes.
     
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  6. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am so confused? I even reread previous posts? Are you guys debating the definition of facts and opinions....I was enjoying this thread and now I am hopelessly lost....*sigh*
     
    PhillyPhan69, Oct 9, 2018
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  7. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I'm not sure either. I'm trying to parse out whether it's a debate at all.

    EDIT: I thought I stated pretty clearly that I was making a prediction about the future, and I agreed with HerolGee that predictions aren't facts. And then he stated that my opinions aren't facts, either, which is true by definition, but he didn't tell me which opinions he was referring to.

    So at this point, I agree that we should probably get the thread back on track.
     
    cross_trainer, Oct 9, 2018
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  8. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    So anyway...

    I'd be curious how many ranked guys Wlad and Lewis beat when they were ranked, compared to Ali and Louis.
     
    cross_trainer, Oct 9, 2018
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  9. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    janitor: If you admit Carnera could beat Briggs, we will stop posting Carnera threads.

    CrossTrainer (sotto voce): Were I Seamus, I would take that offer.

    Seamus: Were I CrossTrainer, I would too.

    Exeunt players.
     
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  10. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Is that a fact or an opinion???
     
    PhillyPhan69, Oct 9, 2018
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  11. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Prediction.
     
    cross_trainer, Oct 9, 2018
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  12. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ok! I am done...I will try to be good now lol
     
    PhillyPhan69, Oct 9, 2018
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  13. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Yeah, there are weirdos on YouTube who’ll say anything but no serious basketball fans of any age group think that Jordan would only be average today.
     
    mrkoolkevin, Oct 9, 2018
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  14. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Except my sons and some who never watched him live I might agree... The same was probably said about Wilt and the Big O once upon a time
     
    PhillyPhan69, Oct 9, 2018
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  15. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Your kids think MJ would be “average” today? Hope they’re very young!

    I see a lot more of the opposite, where everyone swears that guys like LeBron and Durant wouldn’t be “tough enough” to dominate in the 80s and 90s. Even young guys who never watched Jordan live still parrot all the myths about Jordan getting beaten up every time he went to the hole and stuff.
     
    mrkoolkevin, Oct 9, 2018
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