How long can Fedor be the best if he isn't fighting the best?

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  1. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Just something I've been wondering lately. I mean in actuality AND perception? Is this part of the UFC stratagy to disparage Fedor? If Randy loses, does this make the fight between the two more likely? I can understand the UFC's point in the contract they proposed. He would be with them as long as he won. They couldn't NOT have the champ under contract could they? I wish this part was more like boxing. One contract at a time. At least the ABC's don't have direct contracts with the fighters.
     
  2. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just beat 2-time UFC CHamp Sylvia, pencilled to fight Bartnett or AA.

    Who are you thinking of when you say he isnt fighting the best?
     
  3. Hermit

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    The point is, the UFC will freeze him out. Unless the competitiors ramp up he will have trouble getting good fights. Will fighting FORMER UFC champs count? I'll admit I lost touch with MMA a bit after Pride.
     
  4. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well as long as old Pride Champs are UFC champs I don't see why it won't count.
     
  5. Hermit

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    He won't be figthing the current champs. Or probably even the top contenders the way things are at the moment. The UFC will continue to lock those guys up under the contracts that Fedor wouldn't/couldn't sign. He will get the 'former' champs. My question is how long can this go on before he suffers from it? I hope the competition gets serious and breaks the strangle hold the UFC currently enjoys.
     
  6. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    It doesn't matter if he's not fighting the current champs, there is alot of great fights for him outside the UFC right now anyhow. AA and Barnett are a couple of great fights anyhow.
     
  7. Hermit

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    So, what I am hearing so far is that I don't have to worry about the UFC monopoly?
     
  8. Tyga

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    Well Sylvia, AA, Fedor, and Barnett are all signed with Affliction. That's 4 of the top 5 HWs in my opinion.
     
  9. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No.

    But I do think you might be working under the mistaken impression all the best heaveyweights other than Fedor are contracted by the UFC.
     
  10. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    Nog has already been bested by Fedor. If he manages to maintain his status as UFC champion, Fedor is automatically better. If Randy defeats Lesnar and Nog, some doubts will remain. If Brock beats Couture, Nog, and Mir; then the UFC will seem to have the real champ with the hype that will follow those impressive wins.
     
  11. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    The UFC doesnt have the best heavies in the world. They never have. The reality is the best heavies arent in the UFC. There elsewhere. I couldnt care less who wins there heavyweight tourny as neither Nog Randy and certainly NOT Lesnar are the best heavweights in the world.
     
  12. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    Yeah - but Noguiera and Randy Couture might be the second best heavyweights in the world. As noted above - if Couture makes it through Lesnar AND Noguiera - it knocks all the luster off Fedor's aura.

    I still have to see it to believe it - because I don't think Randy will beat Nogueira.
     
  13. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lol, no it doesn't...
     
  14. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    yes it does. fedor's claim to the top were his dominating performances over the other top heavies which included Crocop and nogueira. Crocop got crushed in the UFC - while Nogueira is the interim champ. If Noguiera loses in the UFC - then Fedor's two biggest wins become less significant. That's how it works. These fighters don't suddenly become irrelevant because they are in the UFC. I've been watching MMA since the inception of UFC and Pride. Try that no it doesn't **** with newbies.

    Tito knows what he speaks of. lol
     
  15. Tyga

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    Well that doesn't take away from Fedor's credit, imo. He destroyed Nog and CC in their primes. We all know Nog isn't the same fighter, even I have to admit that. And look what Fedor did to Sylvia. He demolished him in under a minute. It took Randy 5 rounds to beat Timmy.