How long can they milk cash cow AJ before they stick him in with the Champ?

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  1. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Wilder's worse.
     
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  2. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah true, it definitely looks like Hearn is throwing Whyte in the way but I've watched some interviews of Hearn explaining why he insists Wilder fight Whyte first and I see where Hearns comin from.

    I dont think Joshuas been fighting second rate opposition. He got rid of Molina quite easily and Takams no slouch.

    Although I think Wilder would beat Whyte, its still a risk for Wilder. Like you I want to see Wilder vs Joshua tomorrow, we all want it. Wilders trying to make that happen and I respect him for that. If Wilder said 'I want this fight so bad, I'd fight Joshua for my usual $1 million' then Hearn will have no excuse but to put it on straight away but Hearn senses that Wilder is going to want major money and thats when 'boxing is a business' come in.
     
  3. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    I think Wilder deserves the same deal as WK or close to it. I know Joshua has a lot more fans and casuals willing to pay £20 on SBO but Wilder has the belt and has been around longer than Joshua. Hearn paid Can Martin $5m for the 02 when it suited so why doesn't Wilder deserve $10m in Wembley? Joshua has faced second raters - Martin, Molina, Breazeale are all second rate. Takam is maybe borderline A class. To me Hearn is protecting Joshua more than he is trying to hype up Wilder to Brit casuals vs a gatekeeper like Whyte. It very nearly was all lost vs an aged WK. I'd do the same tbh - keep feeding him beatable opponents if the money remains high.
     
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  4. Hayemaker83

    Hayemaker83 Member Full Member

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    To make a Joshua/Wilder fight as big as possible, Wilder has to KO Whyte and as soon as the fight is over, Joshua storms into the ring and the two heavyweight champs go face to face.

    That would be so epic!
     
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  5. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And this is what Hearn is talking about, this is why he's offering Whyte to Wilder. Hearns field is the business of boxing. I hear Wilder is finally understanding Hearn too and could be coming around to how it all makes sense. I'll try to find the source. Trust me Hearn is on to something good here for both fighters but more importantly, for himself as if he pulls this off, hes going to look like Richard Branson.
    Maybe so but one thing I think you can agree on is that Takam did better than Molina who Joshua beat convincingly throughout 3 rounds before KOing him in the third. Yes the Molina who gave Wilder a tough fight, even rocking Wilder. Molinas B class though compared to Takam IMO, actually Takams just better, not sure of the classes lol.
     
  6. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Wilder might have viewed Whyte as a threat but I think that dissolved last night. The guy is not ready to face Wilder but it's all about the bread.

    Martin, Molina, Breazeale, all fringe men for me. Takam has proven himself a decent warrior now in three big fights, a solid gatekeeper. I doubt Whyte would decision Takam put it that way.
     
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  7. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thats Hearns vision and it makes sense. But, Wilder has to knock out Whyte which (without saying it because Whyte is Hearns boy) Hearn should be wishing upon a star on or otherwise the fight wont happen resulting in millions blown in the tornado. Now if Wilder knocks out Whyte in the first round then looks into the TV screen like that wrestler 'Bad News Brown' and says something like 'all you british clowns, stop hiding your joke of a champion Joshua and bring him out NOW', can you imagine the attraction that would cause! Everybody loves a bad guy and Wilders social media v-logs shows he's a natural. The british will back their hero and it would just be massive.
     
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  8. Hayemaker83

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    Straight out of WWE, I love it!
     
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  9. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lol yeah it is and bordering fantastical but the brits would find it so provocative. Brits who dont even watch boxing would want Wilder to pay for that. Then add in the push and shove at the stare down etc, this would be better hype than Floyd and Connor. Hearn = $$$$
     
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  10. Hayemaker83

    Hayemaker83 Member Full Member

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    Wilder would play the cocky brash American bad guy vs the humble modest good guy Brit Joshua. It's perfect!
     
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  11. Staminakills

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    You must has been dropped on your head more times than both wilder and dw has been hit clean their entire careers combined. Wilder/whyte would make both and Hearn (who cares Mir about the next dozens of millions than anything else) they should make wilder/whyte and Aj/Parker. Winners fight reach other, also loses can fight on the co event.

    They should have two massive events, all four fighters on both cards. The ending would be Aj/wilder and whyte/Parker. Of course Hearn wouldn't EVER think about giving the fans this great treat. I'm a huge Aj and dw fan.

    At the same time as being huge fan of theirs, I dislike hw division. It's too obvious who will win at the top level and I'm not a fan of mismatches, which is just about every fight Aj or dw could have until they fight reach other or a couple up and comes turn into the real deal.

    There's so very few that ever turn into the real deal. I know there's a couple that are talked highly out on here but I take that with a huge grain of salt. Most just need that fighter to revert to that the top guys are ****ing and would get destroyed by them.

    Pumping up nobody's while endlessly bashing the only true real deal hw we have in dw and Aj. We still have told that continue to revert to fury would box_insert Aj or dw his grass off. When fury has never truly boxed anyone's head off that I know of. maybe coming up he boxed some silly but highly unlikely.

    Do people really think fury is that great? What fights am I missing that he showed his stuff.. I don't get it, he's talented and agile for a 6'9" boxer who's way way over weight when he was fighting. Now I think he threw his possible future paydays away. He had a guaranteed Wlad rematch that I believe whole heartedly he knew how mentally messed up and how entirely unprepared Wlad would be. How any man would be if his wife was going through an emotional and mental breakdown.

    That's what we're judging fury off ? 1 night against a totally unprepared Wlad who fought on the same level as fury that night. Yup, fury got the win but cmom, that was anything but convincing. And once the truth came out I think we can ignore that entire night.

    Once the last rounds were upon them Wlad gave a last ditch effort to save his belts, but even then he knew he has a rematch immediately. He has fury in kookoo land during the 12th. It's pretty clear why fury wanted to keep that one hitter moniker. He acted like he did the impossible and we have posters on here that's try claiming that as some kind of schooling. Cmom, the more you guys hate on Aj the bigger he'll become while continuing to win.

    He does need too address his muscle growth, simply has become unmanageable and starting to hinder him. I truly believe he slacked way off training once pulev officially pulled out. Fighting takam was a downer for him, waste and he knew no matter how he won he'd get zero credit.

    He shut the dude out, did anything he wanted, took zero damage besides that head butt which would has been a huge and great performance by anyone other than Aj. Broken nose by prefect placed "accidental" butt early. Still went on and did exactly what he claimed the night before.

    ANYONE else they'd be hailing him the ultimate warrior, and never even complained. Dude can't win. And to the crowd booing post. They were booing because they wanted to see takam laying on the floor and knew it was in the making. The ref stopped it one clean shot away from him going down....

    There wasn't a single person in attendance that booed for other reasons. None booed because the believed takam was screwed, not a single person is delusional to the point of thinking takam had any shot seeing the final bell. Most watching fights are hoping for nothing but the ko. I don't get those fans.
     
  12. Serge

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    Ask that grotesque pot-bellied bald slob Dibella and that tranny lover Haymon what Donkeypotamus milk tastes like.
     
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    DONT B SCARED Pimpin Aint Easy Full Member

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    There's even less chance of him risking his title over there after that bull**** stoppage he was right knocking it back for what Hearn was offering. Wouldn't be surprised to see Joshua defend next against Whyte to keep the titles with Hearn no matter the result.
     
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    DONT B SCARED Pimpin Aint Easy Full Member

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    I agree Whyte wouldn't even be in the conversation if he wasn't a Eddie Hearn fighter. The lucky split decision win over Chisora showed what level he was
     
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    DONT B SCARED Pimpin Aint Easy Full Member

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    Who cares who is 20th win was they have taken totally different paths, Joshua winning Olympic gold medal allowed his faster progression