Look at how easily controlled Wilder was with that goofy thing Fury called a jab. You don't think Thomas' jab completely dominates him?
He's a hot mess, yes. As I wrote before, his talent seems to lie mostly in imitating a 6'8" 280-pound wall of mud. Wilder just happens to be worse.
Thomas had an iron chin i n his prime. And he'd be popping that jab in n the face of the crude Wilder all night long
We all know that you’re a huge fan of Deontay’s. But you need to come back to reality. 7-10 years? 15-20 title defences? That’s completely unrealistic. You’re kidding yourself. I’ve read all of your posts throughout this thread. And what you’re doing, is you’re comparing Wilder’s stats with the stats of the guys from the 80’s, before then favouring Wilder. But what you’re not doing, is taking into account many other factors, most noticeably, the fighters skill sets and how they would realistically have all matched up stylistically. You haven’t applied any context. Sure, most of the 80’s guys couldn’t put a consistent run of defences together in their era. Sure, Wilder DID have a long run of defences in his era. What does that prove? Is that evidence to believe that he’d have replicated his success back in their era? Again, apply context. Like others have told you, those guys were all very evenly matched. They were also more skilful than almost all of Wilder’s challengers. Although the 80’s HW’s were inconsistent with drug issues etc, in terms of ability, they were still a step up from guys like: Stiverne, Arreola, Duhaupas, Molina and Brazeale etc. We have all seen Wilder struggle with those B and C level guys. We all know that although he has great power, that he lacks technical ability. We all know that if he can’t knock a guy out that he struggles. There is zero logic in anyone claiming that he’d have had sustained success in the 80’s. Yes, he reigned for 5 years as a champ. But again, by fighting mostly low level guys, just a few times per year. Although I think that he could have knocked out some of those 80’s guys, there’s no way he’d have been able to have reigned for as long as what you believe. Regarding Tyson, are you actually serious?? I don’t even know where to start. Heart? Mike proved on more than one occasion that he had plenty of heart. Smith clinching Mike has no bearing on a Wilder fight. A 1987 version of Mike Tyson would have wrecked Wilder. A horrible stylistic match up for Wilder. He could have ended it? How? How would he have timed Mike to have landed a huge power shot? Mike was 5’10 when stood up straight. In the ring, he was crouched, where he had a great bob and weave style, with great head movement. He would have provided Wilder with such an elusive target. It would have been a fight where Wilder’s size advantage on paper would have been a big disadvantage in the ring. And Mike would have gotten inside of Wilder’s reach very easily. You are overrating Wilder like you always do.
The 6'3 Thomas is going to just relax and pop his jab out keeping the 6'7 wilder at Bay all night? I know people hate wilder, but use some logic. You obviously haven't watched a single wilder fight if you believe this is plausible.
Yes, he'll keep Wilder at bay just long enough to drop the right hand in and take him out. Give it five rounds at most.
This is quite possible.. The problem for me is Thomas' inconsistency. When he was on (Weaver), he was very great. Against Berbick...who knows what that was about.
I will say this, though, in Wilder's defense. I remember when the 60s/70s guys were revered as a murderers row of fighters who would all have been champs in other eras. Guys like Quarry, Norton, Lyle, Shavers, Young, et al were viewed as par for the weaker champion heavyweights like Ezzard Charles. The 80s, meanwhile, were just a poor era of sloppy lazy guys until Saint Tyson cleaned em out. Now the 80s and 90s seem to be slowly replacing the 70s as the Legendary Meatgrinder Era. Not-coincidentally, this has occurred at a time that the Boomers are becoming less prominent, and more young people are flooding in. There's a faddish generational cycle to these things. I await the day when Calvin Brock and Samuel Peter have their turn to stand alongside the boxing immortals for a season.
