How long have you been following the sport?

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  1. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    The last of my non-boxing tangents....the first on McVey's list, "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre" is on the short list of the greatest films of all time.
     
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  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well, they can't help themselves with the remakes, each one is a cash grab hoping to captivate people like the originals did, despite having none of the charm or substance of the originals.

    But wasn't cinema already going the way of the dodo in the 1980's, with the VHS explosion and therefore massive influx of laughably bad crab being released straight to consumers ?
     
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    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    You have a top ten list for film, red cobra? ;)
     
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  4. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think so!

    There are of course those who will claim, that boxing has devolved and isn't what it used to be... but has there ever been a time, when it was? Even 100 years ago there were people, who longed for the "good old days"... you know, when there were REAL fighters! Denigrating the present and talking up the past has always been a favourite pastime of boxing historians.
     
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  5. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Do you feel our present era is of high quality? I think there are plenty of weak divisions in boxing, occupied by sub-par fighters. I don't think we're not entitled to want to see great fighters...
     
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  6. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    mcvey, Don't forget about "The Naked Prey" .. If you haven't seen it ..do
     
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  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    When I followed this stuff, the conventional wisdom seemed to be that the 70s blockbusters like Jaws and Star Wars ended up ruining Hollywood. Some people blame Rocky and other feel good movies of that era too. The argument is that these developments led to an emphasis on dumbed down movies with visceral thrills, generic cinematography, and feel-good endings, etc. I think there’s some truth to it (which is why most of my favorite American films are from the 70s or earlier).
     
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  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well,...as the opinionated retro type ******* that I am, I have an approximate list...don't know if I can split hairs well enough to actually put them in order, but my list is highly subjective, consisting of mostly movies from the 30's through the 50's...and you can sure tell by them who had the Turner Classic Movie Channel on all the time....
    B&W "B" movies were my guilty pleasure.
    Treasure of the Sierra Madre
    Rear Window
    The Hitchhiker
    The Island of Lost Souls
    North By Northwest
    The Rope
    Strangers on a Train
    Shadow of a Doubt
    Bride of Frankenstein
    The Thing
    5 of those are Hitchcock films...not nearly a satisfying list, as none of my boxing lists are as well.
    The Hitchhiker is a really obscure gem...directed by actress Ida Lupino...a film noir classic...you must look it up sometimes Russell...
     
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    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    A great one...I believe it had Cornell Wilde init?
     
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  10. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good points, and a good post.

    I recently watched the original Frankenstein, I'll definitely put "Bride Of" into my watch list in the near future.

    I've also seen The Thing. When it comes to science fiction I actually tend to really like the hokier kind of stuff, I enjoyed The Day the Earth Stood Still a bit more than I did The Thing.

    I made my partner watch Psycho recently, we've also seen The Birds, speaking of Hitchcock. I kind of want to go with Vertigo next.
     
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  11. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Would you mind listing the plenty of divisions that you consider to be weak, and the champions and top contenders that you consider to be subpar? There have been weak divisions and subpar fighters throughout the history of the sport.
     
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  12. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    It might be quicker for me to just highlight the actual handful of elite talents that currently exist in the sport. There aren't very many of them.
     
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  13. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    The thing is, I'd bet that many of the same movies that seem charmingly "hokey" or "campy" when they're from 60 years ago would seem awful and ridiculous if they were made today. Can't speak to your tastes but I think that some people have built-in double standards when it comes to this stuff.
     
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  14. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Thanks but that's a different question, and most everyone has the same names as "elite." I'd be more interested in hearing your list of the plenty of weak divisions and subpar champions. Do you follow the current scene closely?
     
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  15. SHADAPBLAD

    SHADAPBLAD Viscous Knockouts Full Member

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    Looks like all the youngsters are unwilling to expose themselves. I turn 21 in a couple of months. Seriously started followling the sport about two years ago. A lot to learn
     
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