How long until Ward's resume eclipses Calzaghe's?

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  1. Slothrop

    Slothrop Boxing Junkie banned

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    That's pretty much my position.
     
  2. Dai

    Dai Guest

    Ward is better and will be unless he gets randomly ko'd or something.

    Joe was a good fighter and deserve respect but realistically he wasted his talent
     
  3. moneypaysbills

    moneypaysbills That's Mr moneypaysbills Full Member

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    I feel that the man's opinion is more valid then anything you have to say unless you are a professional boxer anonymously posting on ESB

    Don't be silly of course I'm not calling that a carer defining win, but just that it was a better win than 168 Dawson.

    What did Adamek do at 175? Pavlik was the significant favorite over Bhop and Lacy was the significant favorite over Calzaghe but now we can see that they weren't anywhere near either of their level.
    Glen Johnson was a good boxer at that point and I happen to like him quite a lot but he still has some losses to average opposition.

    Pavlik is a hypejob completely and I don't rate him. Fair enough maybe Dawson is arguably better at LHW but he hasn't had a great LHW legacy regardless. Bhop for his age and the constraints that brings has had a more impressive time at LHW I feel
     
  4. Kurushi

    Kurushi Active Member Full Member

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    Résumé eclipse: 2/3 years
    ATG status eclipse: 4/5 years
     
  5. simon850

    simon850 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Already been done.
     
  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    So Ward hadnt bee beaten by Pascal
    Froch hadnt lost to unwell double vision suffering Kessler coming off a loss.
    Kessler hadnt lost to Calzaghe.

    It says alot and if Ward had of beaten Bute it would have been considered his biggest win. Why because Bute was an undefeated world champ and Ward stayed away from those
     
  8. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    jeffjoiner, Rudyard, Smokin' Joe, Slothrop, Lampley all ducked the questions and post. :lol:

    I guess its easier to ignore and be in denial. So butthurt that Calzaghe beat all of Americas top SMWs that would dare to face him and Americas 2 legends

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    Calzaghe beat 3 undefeated fighters who had or went on to claim a SMW title.
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    1. Someone tell me which top undefeated fighters Ward has beaten?
    2. Tell me which top undefeated world champs Ward has fought?


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    Andre Ward............VS.............Joe Calzaghe
    Froch.....................................Kessler
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    (Kessler beat Froch)
    Kessler...................................Eubank
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    Dawson..................................Lacy (Lacy a proven SMW and winner of 5 SMW title fights. Dawson no pedigree at all at SMW)
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    Abraham.................................Mitchell (Mitchell a 2 time SMW champ who had never been clearly beaten, only lost by debateable SD in Germany to Ottke, had KOd long time SMW champ Liles, beaten a future SMW champ twice, compared to AA who had done nothing at SMW)
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    Bika.......................................Brewer (Bikas best win became Manfredo, Brewer had beaten H Graham and was a SMW champ)
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    (Bika was a Calzaghe left over at that time and had been out of the ring bar less than a round for a while)
    Green.....................................Woodhall (Woodhall a SMW champ, who had beaten a reigning SMW champ, a world rated former champ, a future SMW champ and Branco a world rated SMW who became WBA LHW champ, who at SMW beat R Reid and G Johnson who when old and shot KOd Green)
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    Miranda...................................Bika (Bika now a top 5 SMW had drawn with 3 time SMW champ Beyer)
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    Buchanan (?????)......................Sheika
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    (Sheika was coming off a win over G Johnson and was a top 10 SMW at the time)
    Camou (?????)..........................Veit (Veit a SMW title holder who had a fair resume, better than at least 2 of the current top 5 SMWs)
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    Then include the
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    win and then the other top 10 SMWs and its clear Calzaghe is well ahead. I could have put
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    ahead of Green, Camou, Miranda, Buchanon

    Very clear but nobody will have a sensible answer to say otherwise, it will just be a lame Faileys losing it answer when they cant debate against

    Somebody tell me how Ward has done more than that.



    Nobody can counter the above or answer the questions. In fact they hide from the questions :lol:
     
  9. IGIFTK

    IGIFTK S.Kovalev is a problem. Full Member

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    :deal