How Long Will Pacquiao's Footwork Keep Hatton Off Of Him?

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  1. redifish

    redifish Active Member Full Member

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    Solid body shots will slow pacquiao down, if not knock him down/out.

    Roach has been saying Ricky will just resort back to his old ways during the fight, but Manny's prolly gonna get careless esp if he gets tagged a lot early.
     
  2. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    That's water tight reasoning. I have to agree with alot of this. Conventionally speaking, I don't especially favor a Hatton decision, but as you said these fights have a funny way of surprising us. Me getting results I haven't expected over the years has left me open to the unlikely.

    On the flipside of how Hatton's style seems to affect his ability to throw combinations from the outside, is a fairly consistent pattern of Hatton's opposition having the same problem throwing combinations back at him, because of his particular methods. Someone like Malignaggi for example, a guy who had been known for 5 and 6 punch combinations against basically everyone else he ever faced, Cotto included, didn't seem to feel like he had the same time or opportunity to unload on Hatton with more than one or two punches at a time.. Seemingly countless others included..

    Luis Collazo is the one guy who clearly had his way with the combinations when he fought Hatton, but he had to take as much as he dished out in the process of doing his own scoring. Kostya Tszyu also gave a gallant effort in attempting to put his punches together against Hatton, but he too payed the price for planting his feet.. Seeingly countless others included.. That might be the added risk for Pacquiao if he wants to do the same. What do you suppose the chances are Pacquiao finds himself in fewer situations to let his hands go than he, Roach, or anyone basically, could have ever anticipated?
     
  3. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    You ask yourself dude . . . you opened up this stupid thread. :D

    Do you think that Pacquiao will run away from Hatton for the whole 12 rounds because Roach was saying Hatton can't touch Pac . . . and footwork and footspeed is the difference ???

    You are taking that Roach statement out of context and is making a crap out of it by mentioning what Graham thinks:deal

    Not all posters are as dumb as you dude . . . you don't understand what you're saying.

    Honestly?!
     
  4. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Say something worth discussing or take a walk.
     
  5. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    You take a walk dude . . . you can't even answer your own bullcrap. :deal
     
  6. FROST

    FROST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pacquiao is a machine and his footwork will keep Hatton off him for the whole fight if he chooses so. But I guess he'll want to mix it up a bit and that's where Hatton may have the upper hand. To me this is a pick'em fight.
     
  7. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    OK, I get it. You're CRYING now. Eat ****, crybaby. I'm a nice fella, but if you try and talk nonsense to me I'm gonna put it in your face. Realize something, brat; this started with you talking DUMB **** and me calling you on it. You wanted to take some one sided swipes at Graham? Graham?? NOT ROACH?

    For all the **** that Freddie has said?? You're a ****ING IDIOT - and you don't even know what the **** you're talking about on a basic level - AS USUAL. You can't pick and choose what you want to single out or respond to, STUPID. Watch your ****ing dumb mouth. This is a public forum.

    Yeah... "Pacquiao is going to run the whole fight." Great question. Now we're getting somewhere. :roll:
     
  8. konaman

    konaman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It wouldn't be all that surprising. I don't think Pac will need to throw big flurries or anything like that. I think we will see a lot of two punch combinations as Ricky comes in and then lateral movement. Pac doesn't really want to hang around too long to try and get off more punches than he has to or else he will find himself getting worked in the clinch. I think the way Hatton lunged towards Paulie Malignaggi surprised him. Even if Ricky missed his shots he found himself in close and Paulie didn't like that much so he would tie him up (uncharacteristically he was the one doing the clinching). Though Paulie hits like a featherduster so i think he more or less realised he was ****ed and couldn't earn Ricky's respect at all, even when he timed him.

    I think Pac will land the cleaner blows so i don't think he will be reliant on throwing elaborate combinations to build a points lead. If Ricky can't hurt Pac with each shot more than Pac is hurting Ricky then he will never be in it to win, as i think his only chance to actually outscore Pac is if he struggles noticably with Ricky's power. Punch resistance will play a huge part in the outcome of the fight but with Pac coming up in weight and his punch resistance being untested and with his power against larger opponents being relatively unknown, i don't think we will really get a good idea until fight night.
     
  9. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Crying???? :lol:

    Who's talking nonsense? You are trying to imply that Pac is running away and will try to keep out Hatton the whole fight based on what Roach and Graham said . . . I'm just asking you as a boxing fan . . . knowing both fighters . . . you really believe that Hatton cannot touch Pac the whole 12 rounds because Roach was talking about footwork being the difference . . . . and Graham said Pac is gonna lose ???

    I'll tell you straight you are talking crap and this whole ****i'n thread is a trash . . . because the moment that bell rings . . . both will meet and the middle and try to beat each other's guts right there. Yeah Pacquiao's gonna run the whole fight . . . that's what you are saying. Check your poll questions.


    End of your bull**** thread. :deal
     
  10. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    . . . and oh after the fight . . . come back to me and tell me who's telling the truth . . . Roach or Graham. :D

    I say they're both morons . . . and you can include yourself. :deal
     
  11. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Yes, I agree, Malignaggi was definately surprised by what Hatton did once he got in front of him. The thing is; I don't feel like I have all that many reasons to believe Team Pacquiao isn't making exactly the same mistake. I've spent alot of time talking about Pacquiao's history of behavior when he's pressed, and how adventageous I believe that's going to be for Hatton. Manny is about as far from a being a 'bull fighter' as there can possibly be at this level. He's been given a fair amount of credit for his performances against Diaz and De La Hoya, but in both of those fights Pacquiao's natural inclination to bail out instead of properly set himself and throw counterpunches reared itself more often than not, when even those guys launched forward or started punching with any sort of menace. I can only imagine how hard it might be for Pacquiao to feel comfortable with Ricky Hatton coming after him. I think it's entirely possible Pacquiao never finds any sort of rythm at all.. What's your take on the basic movement aspects of this fight?
     
  12. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Not only is this WEAK, crybaby, but the DESPERATION to put words in my mouth and completely fabricate nonsense really says alot about how much of a pathetic little scoundrel you are. :rofl

    I'm not taking any input from a second rate IDIOT like you. Didn't I tell you to spare us the time, crybaby?

    You don't listen so good. :nono
     
  13. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Read your poll options . . . and tell me what you are implying . . . crybaby? Fabricate ???

    Is that fabricated??? :lol:

    You're not taking input from an idiot who bitchslapped you with your own moronic view.

    15 seconds???
    Whole fight????
    Undecided???

    You are pathetic boiii . . . go back to me after the fight and tell me who between Roach and Graham is telling the truth. :deal

    :hi:
     
  14. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    OK, crybaby, go ahead and tell me what my poll options are implying. ^ Listing them up there isn't going to accomplish much. :rofl But wait... That's you making some sort of monumental statement, right?? :rofl That's you "***** slapping" someone right? :rofl **** OFF, ******. :rofl
     
  15. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Yeah it won't accomplish much because you yourself who made it up doesn't understand what it implies.

    Who's ******??? Now you stop crying. :lol:
    :rofl

    Waste of time . . . :deal