How Long Will Pacquiao's Footwork Keep Hatton Off Of Him?

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  1. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    What's this about you getting perma-BANNED from some of the other boxing websites???

    You're not a very popular guy, are you, psychopath?

    It seems some people don't like you here either. I've been getting PM's from some of your fans. :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  2. konaman

    konaman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We will probably see a lot of Ricky following Pac early (he might willingly slow it down after getting tagged a few times to try and sus things out). I expect him to look like the energizer bunny bobbing forward constantly and probably not slowing down much as a result of energy loss, only if he sees it as being advantageous. Hatton moves in straight lines a lot of the time so i think from Pac's end of things we will see him trying to turn Hatton around a lot through lateral movement when Ricky is closing on him.

    I don't really regard Freddy's words that highly, he seems to be under the impression that Hatton is slow on his feet or something. This isn't really the case and i don't see Pac dancing around the ring like Ray Leonard. He will rely on turning Hatton inside out regularly as opposed to covering large amounts of ground in a short time.
     
  3. psychopath

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    If you're trying to ward off . . . further humilations fine . . . I'll be the one to look for you after the fight :yep

    . . . but rightnow I can tell you straight that Hatton not touching Pac the whole fight and Pac trying keep Hatton out the whole fight is . . . Baloney . . . and won't happen. It's just a product of Roach and Graham's HYPING MINDS which an idiot like you is making a big deal off. :D

    I can assure you both will not happen. :deal

    I'm off for now.
     
  4. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    You're working your magic again, smart guy. Nice job insulting most of the people who voted. :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  5. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Nah you are halucinating I've never been perma banned in any other website . . . TEMPORARILY in BS . . . because I chewed off the MODS ass for playing around my points and vcash. And I transfered here using same name and avatar to send them a message that I'm well off out of their site and I don't have a plan to post again there. :deal :lol:

    . . . and don't try to stray away from the point of arguement who have been humilated boii. :hi:
     
  6. artofwar

    artofwar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    long enough to punish hatton and go for the kill.
     
  7. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Yup they voted because they don't realize that you are talking crap dude.

    :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol:
     
  8. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Just remember what I said . . . Hatton not touching Pac the whole fights is . . . baloney

    Pac running trying to keep hatton out the whole fight . . . is baloney.

    :hi:
     
  9. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Could you tell me a bit more about what you see Pacquiao doing in terms of movement? That's major, IMO.

    Call me crazy, but from what I can tell, being extremely familiar with Hatton, the guy seems to live for that space in between stations, as the fighters transition from offense to defense, when the opponent tries to step or roll after the exchange. That's when Hatton pounces, right?

    Turning Hatton unscathed seems to be a massive problem for Manny in this fight from what I can tell. Pacquiao seems to be at his most vulnerable in transition. I've called it a 'perfect marriage.'

    What do you think?.... Does it really work to turn Hatton laterally or simply try and outmanuever him?

    Without taking a ton of leather?

    Why has nobody been able to do it?

    Pacquiao might be the man for the job - but what a ****ing job, you know what I mean?
     
  10. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    :|

    Aww..... Cute. He's trying to explain. :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  11. konaman

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    I think we will see Hatton lunge and miss his first punches a lot. He looked very predictable against Paulie although he stood in front of Ricky far too much so Ricky was still able to land pretty cleanly and frequently. I don't see this happening with Manny, his upper body movement is good enough to avoid it. When Ricky misses with his initial bullrushes he will be in no mans land for a few moments. Pac will be able to move in any direction he wants at this point. In terms of Mannys movement patterns, i'd say he will probably try and catch Hatton coming in, then backup while Hatton recomposes himself. When he feels himself approaching the ropes he will move laterally and turn Ricky around. Then pretty much rinse and repeat.

    Ricky definitely has the foot speed to close the distance quickly, but thats only half of it. He should jab his way in, but he generally doesn't. I think Pac will buy a lot of time and room for movement through superior timing and punching fluidity. I can't really see Hatton landing more than one decent punch at a time except for when they are breaking away from a clinch, which in my opinion is his only chance of breaking Pac down, as he can load up to the body.

    Do you think the version of Hatton that fought Malignaggi is significantly worse than the one that fought Tszyu San Rafael? and how does that effect his chances against Pac?

    Also, what do you think Hatton needs to do when hes in range of Pac, to have the greatest impact? Is Ricky's best chance to close the distance (and take a shot for his troubles) and simply get a hold of Manny, and then punish him to the body?
     
  12. Blue_Ray

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    uUntil Pacquiao knocks him out.
     
  13. Blue_Ray

    Blue_Ray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hatton lunge is like the Superman punch in MMA. But Pac has Kryptonite punch ready for him. LOL!
     
  14. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    For this fight, I'd obviously much prefer to see the guy who fought Tszyu over the guy who fought Malignaggi. Not in terms of where Hatton is at in his career, but specifically in terms of the all out aggression he showed in that fight.

    What we saw Hatton doing against Malignaggi; bouncing around on the outside, with the somewhat more cerebral approach, is a recipe for disaster against Pacquiao as far as I'm concerned. As I've said; Pacquiao is no good going backwards, and I see it as imperative that Hatton has Pacquiao on the retreat every second of every moment of this fight, within reason.

    Any hesitation by Hatton on the outside is an opportunity for Pacquiao to launch forward with his bionic stuff, and I fully expect Pacquiao's accuracy to be as good as you do. Hatton cannot afford to get hit with anything carrying Pacquiao's full forward momentum behind it, so limiting the number of times Hatton is set in front, or bouncing back out, is paramount, IMV.

    Yep, Hatton needs to collapse, collapse, collapse - as intelligently as he can bring himself to do so. The opportunities will open up as Pacquiao is forced into transition, on the scramble for a reset. If everything looks the way it should, these two will appear as a couple of alley cats covering every inch of the ring as they go round and round, with Hatton on the constant hunt. If Pacquiao wants to throw - Hatton will be right on top of him again. Eating leather, I'm sure.

    Hatton will do the majority of his damage as he catches Pacquiao shifting and angling to get away from him. People need to go back and watch the Mayweather and Collazo fights again. Carefully. Both of those guys started out trying to manuever around Hatton, but soon realized that Hatton's crashmouth tactics are generally just a smokescreen for a heavy transition shot - which Collazo discovered on the ass of his trunks on KD, and Mayweather on several of the precious few punches from Hatton that actually did make clean contact with his face and body. There is a reason both Mayweather and Collazo elected to stand at a certain point early - it was the only safe option. People may think of Hatton as fast or slow with his hands in a general sense, but he's undeniably cat-like with transition punches.

    I have almost no expectations at all that significant damage will be done to Pacquiao's body, mostly his head (shocking, I know), as he moves into Hatton's crosshairs as they rotate around. Manny won't be an easy target though. Not at all. He was born to barrel roll and twist and wriggle his way out of danger, sloppy or not. Trapping Manny will be virtually impossible if Freddie has done his work, so I doubt we'll be seeing very much of that.
     
  15. kalunya5964

    kalunya5964 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's Pac's powerful punches that will keep Hatton off him!