How long would wlad of lasted with a prime mike tyson?

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  1. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    that's what im saying, primes vitali-tyson might be the most explosive hw fight of the modern era. both are aggressive and have iron chins with excellent power. tyson has the speed and overall skill advantages. vitali has the huge size and counterpunching abilities to offset some of that. i would pay anything within reason if that fight could happen
     
  2. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Buster Douglas lasted longer than that...hmm..he actually finished Tyson

    James Tillis lost via UD...and that was against a prime tyson.
    But i guess Tillis > Klitschko too huh ?
    http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=803&cat=boxer

    Mitch Green lost via UD (against prime tyson)...
    But green > wlad of course.

    Keep masturbating to one of the most overhyped athlete in media history.
    Tyson was an amazing athlete. But human...
    But the media kept portraying the guy as a demi-god killing machine.
    Fanaticism is beautiful (because it's pure and it has a huge passion behind it) but it's also a sad thing too..Sad because they're deluded.

    I find that it is quasi-useless to actually try and argue with them (the fans that is..). Because logic is out of the equation with these people. A bit like religious fanatics. You'll give them scientific facts...they'll tell you: "but the bible says"...or "the miracles of the qu'ran , that's why i believe"...etc...etc...
     
  3. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    How long would wlad of lasted with a prime mike tyson?

    Speaking as a non Tyson fan who never bought into the hype I'd say roughly 90 seconds!!
     
  4. El Borracho

    El Borracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No one can honestly say how this would play out, as we have yet to see the current (and, prime) version of Wlad in with a fast, pressure fighter.
     
  5. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Wlad had a good chin and didnt panic at the first sign of danger, I would give him a good chance against a prime Tyson, but anyone that has followed Wlad's career as closely as I have will tell you, Wlad does not take punches well at all, so if he got bounced around the ring by fighters like Peter and Sanders, what do you think a compact, fast, highly aggressive and very powerful boxing legend would do to him? I would even favor the Tyson that fought Danny Williams over Wlad, Wlad just lacks the toughness needed to beat most of the ATG heavy hitters.
     
  6. glscotland

    glscotland ****ing Legend Full Member

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    tyson ko2
     
  7. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To me, the main problem with Wlad, and one reason he's not as good as Lewis, is that he's more of a boxer and not much of a fighter. IMO, had it been Wlad in the ring with his brother, instead of Lewis, Vitali would have won and certainly would have stopped him in the second round, if he caught him the way Vitali caught Lewis. But back to the point, this lack of fighting spirit and ability, would hurt him against Tyson, who is a one man wrecking machine when he senses fear. As good as Wlad is, I think Tyson would simply overwhelm him.
     
  8. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i'm sure none of you actually believe what you're saying..I read "tyson by KO rnd 1..."he'd last 90 seconds".....would any of you ****ers bet the house on it? of course you wouldn't...because if you'd be 100% certain about your claims you'd all be ****ing millionaires....

    No one knows for sure what would happen
     
  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    If you want to match Douglas Tyson with Klitschko that is a different fight. But you knew that.

    Klitschko rellies very heavily upon his jab to keep his opponent at distance. He has a suspect chin.

    Tyson is a powerful and accurate puncher and has developed head movement specificlaly designed to ditch the jab. You need a map?

    Why are you picking all of Tyson's worst performances in this argument? Do you think Mitch Green is better than Spinks and Trevor Berbick?
     
  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    If I was gambling on a specific round I would pick Tyson in round one. Of course I wouldn't bet my house on it.

    Of course.
     
  11. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    How do Wlad's improved defensive skills help against a 5'10" bullrusher? I don't see how it helps. He still can't fight for **** on the inside, and with Tyson's quickness, he wouldn't be able to keep him on the outside. With Tyson's lack of height and core strength, he'd have a hard time clinching him too.

    I don't like Tyson or Klit much, but Tyson is just a god awful stylistic matchup for Wlad. If he can survive past 3 rounds, then he has a shot at outboxing Tyson, but I doubt it would make it out of the first minute.
     
  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :deal

    Wlad is a fine clincher, though.
     
  13. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A good uppercut through an open guard would change that, watch how wide Wlad openings his arms to clinch, he's lucky he hasnt came in contact with a guy that can get off quick on the inside, guys like Brewster and Peter were too slow to expose him on the inside, a fluid inside fighter like Tyson would.
     
  14. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Berbick and Spinks are two of the most overrated boxers ever. (But that's another issue).

    you're saying:
    " Why are you picking all of Tyson's worst performances in this argument?"

    the better question is why are you deluded fans constantly basing your judgements on Tyson's victories against the likes of Ricardo Spain , Singleton ,long , Canady...and so on...

    it's a tricky situation whenever tyson is concerned because when tyson KOs a can he's in his "prime". But as soon as he starts to look like **** it's because: "well you see...he wasn't in his prime anymore"...

    It's a lose - lose argument. You can't possibly win against a deluded fan because it's like arguing with a religous fanatic. Fans aren't looking at the weak spots. They have a glorified , perfect image of a demi-god.

    i'm actually not that much surprised that you're asking me this..

    "Why are you picking all of Tyson's worst performances"

    Of course!...It would be so much easier to only talk about Tyson's rd 1 KOs wouldn't it ?
     
  15. mike464

    mike464 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I really doubt if Wlad would actually get in the ring with Tyson. If he did I'd say Tyson KO1 or KO2 at the very latest.