How long would wlad of lasted with a prime mike tyson?

Prime Wladimir beats the **** outta prime Tyson.

 

And what does Wlad do when Tyson lands a clean hook? Just take it well?

 

In the early to mid 80's, Tyson's prime, Mike feasted on nobodies and old timers.

 

What does Tyson do to get inside the jab? I have a hard time believing the Tyson hype when I lived through it. I saw practically every fight he had in his supposed prime.

 

You do know that Tyson used to come in with head movement right?

 

In how many of those fights did his oppenent actually fight back and make a fight tough for Wlad? Peter is the only fighter I remember given Wlad a tough fight and Wlad found a way to prevail, though he did it the cowardly way by turning his back to his oppenent, excessively clinching, and for the most part looking like a wild animal trying to cover up from being mauled and pawing his way to victory.

I suggest you watch a very good video on youtube, it's called "Wlad The Octopussy", it gives a good breakdown on the fight and allows you to see how delicate and weak Wlad truly is, it got some very unkind responses toward Wlad as well.

 

I'd give Tyson more like 8 rounds before he was mumbling incoherently in his corner while being revived from being KO'd. Buster had a decent jab but Wladimir has an awesome, ATG jab & plenty more power.

 

Really. He was fast too, against no hopers like Peter McNeely, Bonecrusher Smith & Bruno.

That don't mean **** against a good mover & jabber with power like Wladimir.

 

Oh, and B-Hop got his ass beat by a white boy named Joe. :good

 

He beat Peter so convincingly that even with 3 knockdowns counted against him, 2 of which were bogus, Peter was still easily outpointed. You know those 2 knockdowns were bull**** too.

How does Peter look now? :yep

 

Tyson had some great combos too, especially vs. nobodies like Steve Zouski & a few other unknown white guys in 70's gym shorts. Very impressive. :roll:

 

Wlad won the fight, I never claimed a Peter victory. Wlad looked like **** in winning, against a 25 yearold and extremely green and very raw Peter. That being said, Peter chased Wlad all over the ring, he was clearly the aggressor and made Wlad panic a number of times in that fight as well as clinch excessively and bounce off the canvas a few times, it was a competitive fight none the less, and all 3 judges seemed to agree with me on that.

I just hope and pray Wlad and Samuel meet again, fireworks will be in the forecast for this one.

 

LOL at the idea Bruno was a no hoper. He was as good as anyone on Wlad's resume.

 

Fail

 

Well...no..it's not a cheap shot. You see , to you..It seems like a "cheap shot" because Tyson is some sort of invincible god. (i'm exaggerating here of course) , but i'm guessing , it's not far from the truth.

I'm not blaming you in particular or anything. Like i said before , 90 if not 95% of boxing fans are either

1 totally deluded. (nothing wrong with that , but it's impossible to have a rational point of view or a normal discussion)

2 Fans are also lying to themselves. Not a single one of you **** would be willing to bet the house on a prime Tyson. Let's say , we go back in time , let's say , we can magically have prime Vitali or prime Lennox....No no...forget that let's say , we have prime Tua vs Tyson...or hell...Prime Rahman vs Prime Tyson...

Easy game. Since you're so sure. We'll do an extreme case.
Imagine this absurd scenario...

Tyson wins...you win a load of cash...

But if Tyson loses or if the fight ends in a draw...We kill your family , take all your money , and everything that goes with it (your house)...

With all honesty , would you still have the balls to participate ?...Would you jeopardise everything simply based on your personal conviction that a prime tyson would logically be capable to beat Rahman ?

Of course you wouldn't. No one in his sane mind would. (unless you don't give a **** about life and your family).

My position is this....I trust numbers , not humans. A prime Tyson is not god. Never was. When i read: "tyson would kill wlad in the first"...

My position is: "maybe"....I don't have the mentality of a 10 yr old fanboy. I look at statistics , i don't masturbate over footages where tyson made cans look like **** in 30 seconds...

In boxing , there's can crushers & cans. It's quite rare to see a "can crusher" vs "can crusher" fight. When it happens though...that's when you see who'll eventually end up as a "gate keeper" instead of "champ".

a prime tyson wasn't able to KO Tillis. and that was in 1986
a prime tyson wasn't able to KO Green. (1986 again)
a prime tyson took 6 rounds to finish a can like Jesse Ferguson (1986)
a prime tyson took 5 rds to finish a monumental can like Mike Jameson

Just how many years was tyson's "prime" years supposed to last?...is it even a year ? maybe 6 months ?...

I'm just curious because in 1986...he sure used to look in top form.
He started boxing in 1985.

Knowing these facts...why are you people so sure that Tyson would annihilate Wlad Klitschko in the 1rst ?....If you admit that he'd do this...or even finish him in 3 or 4 rounds...

then , you have to admit that
Mike Jameson ( 15 wins - 16 losses)

Jesse ferguson ( 26 wins - 18 losses)

Buster Douglas ( Gatekeeper at best...overrated to the max )

James Tillis ( 42 wins - 22 losses , already had 8 losses before fighting Tyson)

& Mitch Green (already had a loss vs the ultra overrated Berbick before his fight vs Tyson)

Were all way superior to Wlad Klitschko. Hell..Forget Klitschko. It's useless to defend him. He could even lose tonight against Tony Thompson it wouldn't change ****.

Let's take Rahman. If a prime Tyson couldn't annihilate Ferguson , Tillis etc..in the first...what makes you think that he'd kill Rahman in the first ?

Again , my position ? 50/50....I'm never certain. I don't try to convince myself. I wasn't brainwashed by the mass media who were for many years portraying tyson as a hulk killer.

There was no such thing as a prime Lennox Lewis back in Tyson's or Ali's era...and there were certainly no such thing as a big eastern euro who knew how to box either...

ALL eras are overrated. But you people can't get that **** through your skulls. If today's era sucks or is "boring" , it doesn't make previous eras better because of it. ALL eras had a form of weakness. How can we even compare when a one dimensional fighter such as Rahman was able to finish a monumental talent like Lennox ?...Are today's "cans" the equivalent of yesterday's "gatekeepers" ?....who the **** knows...How can you people even try to imagine these absurd match ups....We have freaks like Valuev for **** sakes...

Valuev ( 330 LBS - 7ft tall) vs Marciano ( 180 LBS - 5'11 )...who would win ? take a good ****ing guess...Would Marciano's determinism be enough to KO the guy ?...

In the mouth of a boxing fan , "Prime Tyson" is more of a mythical god than a ****ing boxer. It's not even a wlad vs tyson debate...forget wlad. The media created an immortal monster out of a fantastic athlete. I don't buy into any of this bull****... If the media-brainwashing machine was right , we'd all be multi-millionaires. You'd all be betting the house on every single fight..You'd all be super rich. But it ain't the case...Because deep down , you know that there's always chances for a major **** up.




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