how low can pbcscam go?

until the financial backers (waddel & reed) money are gone.

 

Lee-Quillin
Degale-Dirrell
Kameda-McDonnell
Broner-Porter
Russell-Gonzalez
Garcia-Peterson

There's no more mismatches on PBC on average than on any other outlet.
There's just a lot more fights on PBC at the moment

Were all evenly matched fights between top 10 ranked fighters

 

HBO 2014
Crawford vs Beltran, Klitschko vs Pulev, Hopkins vs Kovalev, Donaire vs Walters, Golovkin vs Geale, Crawford vs Gamboa, Cotto vs Martinez, Froch vs Groves II, Marquez vs Alvarado, Pacquiao vs Bradley II, Salido vs Lomachenko

PBC 2015
:think:huh

 

Crawford vs Beltran Klitschko vs Pulev Golovkin vs Geale Cottovs Martinez Marquez vs Alvarado, where all seen before as one sided fights(although Cotto-Martinez was a suprise). I agree that is a decent list. But Thurman-Guerrero, Khan-Algieri, Garcia-Peterson and Porter-Broner are all good fights for free. I just don't see the reason for all the hate personally.

 

Let's examine that opinion.

HBO 2015
Cottov vs Geale, Gonzalez vs Sosa, Alvarez vs Kirkland, Mayweather vs Pacquiao, Klitschko vs Jennings, Matthysse vs Provodnikov, Kovalev vs Pascal, Golovkin vs Murray, Rios vs Alvarado III

 

Examining.

Cotto vs Geale we all knew Geale would get stomped especially given the catch weight, also seen as a joke because Geale just lost to Golovkin.

Gonzolas vs Sosa good fight although no one knew Sosa

Canelo vs Kirkland No one thought this was going to be competitive.

Mayweather vs Pac- Good fight but was a joint fight with HBO and Showtime so not sctrictly an HBO fight.

Klit vs Jennings Not seen as going to be competitive in the slightest.

Matthysse vs Provodnikov Great matchup


Kovalev vs Pascal Great match up

Golovkin vs Murray only question was what round does Murray get KO'd

Rios vs Alvarado 3 both had declined majorly since their last fight(Alvarado much more so).

 

Ehh... no. Some were picking Geale, and of course, a lot didn't think Cotto would KO him. Some even thought Geale would give Cotto trouble because of the Trout fight (which is always brought up and falls on its face). I mean even the HBO crew was so impressed that they went from being skeptical and talking about Golovkin to kissing Cotto's a$$ in the post fight. All this after they were hammering him before the fight.

We're assuming non-casuals are watching. This was a damn good fight and anytime Gonzalez is on TV is a good time.

People wanted to watch it because it had explosive fight written all over it. The fight delivered, and as the press repeated, it gave boxing a resuscitation it needed after Mayweather/Pacquiao. Plus, this and Cotto/Geale laid the ground-work for Cotto/Canelo.

Now you're splitting hairs.

Jennings was a top 10 heavyweight at the time. He's no Robert Guerrero.

I agree and ****s all over PBC.

Not really. People knew Murray was tough, and as a lot of haters said, Golovkin hasn't been tested. Well, Macklin, Geale, Stevens, and Murray were all supposed to be Golovkin's big tests up until he made short work of them. Then they all became bums, etc.

People were expecting a war, though. We also saw that Rios still has something left, and of course, this fight made Rios a hot commodity. We can all cry about Alvarado's performance, but Bradley and Brook both wanted to fight Rios after that bout.

 

Your thoughts are legitimate I just didn't see a lot of those fights as any more competitive than the PBC match ups. Good match ups are made on both sides, and bad match ups are made on both. HBO has the best match ups simply because they have the biggest names. But it's not as if the fights on PBC have all been mismatches.

 

I just don't see how people can be so mad at PBC. It's certainly better than FNF.

 

No. The Undercard wasn't PPV. It drew what Malignaggi drew on ESPN.

Both had 1.5 million viewers, give or take.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20...190-preliminary-bouts-on-fox-sports-1/442841/

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/garc...ce-1998-300669


The actual Rousey PPV figures are expected to be less than a million. (Her last PPV sold 590,000.)

UFC's PPV numbers peaked between 2008 and 2010.

http://mmapayout.com/blue-book/pay-per-view/

So everyone who is saying UFC is DESTROYING boxing ... basically the top UFC stars are getting about as many viewers as Paulie Malignaggi gets on an ESPN show.

That's not exactly terrifying. :roll:

Keith Thurman's fight with Guerrero had 4.2 million viewers at its peak.

 

That was the first show, it was around the massive boxing frenzy surrounding Floyd-Pac, and had huge hype behind it, PBC was said to revitalize boxing and bring it back to the main stream.

That's what people who keep saying 'it's been a few months just wait' don't get. Pbc is losing ratings with every passing show, literally every show did worse than the one before it (on the same channels mind you, nbc to nbc, spike to spike, ect). Al had his chance, and ****ed it away with boring fights or lame showcases, or just downright bizarre venue selections combined with a sterile atmosphere (especially in the beginning with the elevator music)

Al tried to make a brand with interchangeable fighters he can just plug in, but boxing is a star driven sport and his idea just simply didn't catch on. He seems to be taking some measures to change things up, but I thing the damage has been done

 

Simply not true Porter-Broner drew 2.38 m viewers.

 

And Garcia-Peterson did 3.4 before it, as well as the already mentioned 4.2 for Thurman-Guerrero

Broner-Porter did the WORST of the first three pbc on nbc fights, and as I pointed out with each passing card, it's getting lower and lower. Ironic thing is, Porter-Broner (at least on paper) was by far the most intriguing fight

 

My mistake thought you were comparing it across all channels. Meaning something like Porter-Broner would beat a previous PBC on like Spike.

 

No, that's why I said when compared to same channels, obviously you can't compare nbc or cbs to spike or fs1

Ppl are going to tune in to boxing again in the fall time with all the big fights coming up (especially Mayweather's) pbc better capitalize on it and sctually make some real fights, let's see Thurman-Garcia, Stevenson-Beterbiev, Wilder-Povetkin, he's got the fighters to make it work, he just needs to pull the trigger. We're sick and tired of gimme fights and divas acting like they deserve everything before they actually earn it (like wilder saying he's the a-side to Wlad, Jacobs saying he's the draw/attraction and his fans are fiending for him vs Quillin, yet outside of his family and friends, and a few hardcore fans like us, no one knows who the FUK he is