How Many 50's Heavies Would Do Well In Today;s Heavy Division?

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  1. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The guys that made up the heavyweight rankings in the 50's.
    Fighters like,
    Walls
    Baker
    Henry
    Norkus
    Moore
    Charles
    Walcott
    Louis if you want
    Gardner
    Williams
    Lastarza
    Wallace
    Slade
    Sys
    Oma
    Buccceroni
    Layne
    Satterfield
    Bivins just about
    Valdes
    Johnson

    How many of them would achieve a top ten ranking at HEAVYWEIGHT if they chose to compete in the division as it stands today?
    No hypothetical," if they bulked up on whatever ," Them as they actually were.
     
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  2. Oakland Billy Smith

    Oakland Billy Smith Active Member banned Full Member

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    Most would be too small to hang with the likes of Wilder or AJ
     
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  3. Pat M

    Pat M Well-Known Member Full Member

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    None of them.
     
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  4. Fergy

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    I'm having a hard time picturing any of em doing great in this day and age tbh. Guys like Walcott, Charles and Moore, ATGs but size wise just to small to be successful.
     
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  5. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    Depends on your definition of success

    Walcott, Patterson, Ingo, Charles, Marciano, Williams and perhaps Layne would all find themselves on the top 10. Marciano, being the best of that group, would become champ against anyone. So could Walcott. Patterson could beat AJ imo. Charles would beat Ruiz and Wilder.

    If you wanna throw in 1959 Sonny Liston I the mix i think he beats the champs too.
     
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  6. Reinhardt

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    I have a hard time seeing Ruiz beat Walcott
     
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  7. NoNeck

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    Define “well.”
     
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  8. NoNeck

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    80 pounds and similar handspeed.
     
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  9. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    80 pounds of lard isn't a benefit, Walcott had footwork also , Ruiz footwork wise is a plodder next to Joe
     
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  10. BCS8

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    They're kind of small.

    On the other hand, today's HW division kind of sucks.

    I'd say they do better than the "size is everything" pundits think. How well, is beyond my ken.
     
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  11. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I don't. Not at all.

    Faster hands, better pop and most importantly, YOUNG BONES.
     
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  12. NoNeck

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    You haven’t boxed.
     
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  13. Tonto62

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    I don't think Williams was ranked in the 50's.
     
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  14. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    Williams went to war with Liston in '59 (and did pretty well) and that's all that matters to me
     
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  15. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    In the Olympic tryouts, Frazier who was 196 pounds fought the 295 pound Buster Mathis and was extremely competitive.
     
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