How many boxers joined the Muhammad Ali Amateur Club and used his style successfully?

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  1. Mr.Noob

    Mr.Noob Member Full Member

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    Throughout the 1960's, 1970's. 1980's, and even the 1990's. Muhammad Ali entertained the crowd for many years with his razor-sharp speed, his sugary sweet style, his scientific methods, and his dazzling footwork always gave the crowd sweet-tooth. However, thought-out all these great battles Ali had, was Muhammad Ali the only boxer to have the dazzling style or were there admirers behind him who danced aside with him? Back in the day, there were some up-coming amateurs in the AAU league who admired or were inspired by the greatest of all time, they would enter the Muhammad Ali Amateur Club to fight for him and want to take on the role of Muhammad 'The Greatest ' Ali (I'll just call it the MAAC for now, if someone has the official name, respond in this thread immediately so I don't look dumb XD.) There were boxers who wanted to take on this title, but it wasn't easy. From what I researched, Tony Tubbs was a major one who join the MAAC and fought Marvis Frazier during the amateur days, at this time Tubbs was representing Muhammad Ali and had the uniform for it as well.

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    This match above my head was hard to find but I have it here if you want to watch the match, Tubbs really had that style with him and it was beautiful to watch him. Now it's your guys turn to help me out, we have to make this thread the greatest thread of all time. Let's try to keep it as active as possible. Anyways, during all those golden aged years, list the boxers that you know who represented the great Ali during these magnificent years. This isn't just a list, this is a Muhammad Ali related thread so everybody can only talk about the Greatest and only the greatest. My note is done, make sure to list some, just some boxers who were in the amateur that fought in the hands of the Ali gym and don't let this thread die out.


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    (Both use the same dazzling style, Darin was the pressure boxer this time)
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    (For the poll, make sure not to vote the name of the fights, just vote for the name of the fighters you think won!)
     
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  2. Mr.Noob

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    I put so much effort in this thread so let's hope it doesn't die out XD!
     
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    Mitch Green didn't really have to the best resume on his record but he was on his toes and danced a bit during his pro-career. Also he had a nice amateur record if you look on Wikipedia!
     
  4. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Man Tubbs looks good in that video, pretty good for the stage in his career.

    I still don't fully understand, this was an amateur tournament run by Ali?
     
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  5. Mr.Noob

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    What I mean is that Muhammad Ali had a group of amateurs with him who fought at his gym and in the golden gloves. The reason why I showed you the video of Tubbs is because he was in that club, and many more were but I you'll have to look back in the 1970-1981 to find clips like that. The thread question for the mega-nerds of boxing were, how many amateur boxers joined Muhammad Ali Club, my example was Tony TNT Tubbs.
     
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    Mitch Green was another one who represented the Muhammad Ali Amateur Club! Good mention for him as well, amazing amateur resume until he fought Mike Tyson, he wasn't the same Mitchy Green he was before.

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  7. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tony Tucker was also a member of the Muhammad Ali Boxing Club. He fought as a light heavyweight.

    So did Jeff Stoudemire and Donald Bowers, whe were light middleweights.

    Tony Tubbs, as mentioned previously. Curtis Jackson, who was also a heavyweight. Charles "Casanova" Carter was a middleweight.

    Chuck Robinson, who died in the plane crash in 1980 that killed many members of the U.S. amateur boxing team en route to a tournament in Poland, was also a member of the Muhammad Ali Boxing Club.

    Actually, the entire Muhammad Ali team - including Tubbs and Tucker and their coach Jimmy Ellis - were invited to go to Poland but declined because the team had just returned from East Germany. The only team member who went was Robinson.

    The team sort of came apart when Harold Smith (Ross Fields) was arrested and charged with robbing the Wells Fargo Bank of $20+ million. Smith financed the team and paid Ali to let them use his name. Smith also got most of the fighters hooked on coke and was paying them thousands of dollars, even though they were amateurs.

    Here is Tucker fighting under the Ali Boxing Club banner.

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  8. Mr.Noob

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    That is some beautiful stuff right here man, I thought nobody really knew about the Muhammad Ali club or if it even existed. Thanks man, I appreciate how many members of the Ali club you mentioned. That is amazing, much respect to you. Do you have any more because you dunked a ton of noble people on me right now, god bless you.
     
  9. Mr.Noob

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    Jose Ventura was also part of the Muhammad Ali Club back in the 1970's or 1980's I am assuming due to the camera quality. I don't much about him as I tried to research him, he is nowhere to be found on the internet. But the most information you can find on him is at this link. I only know that he fought in the golden gloves during 1971, used the Muhammad Ali style, amazing movers and jabber, he kept moving, he looked good. Ventura was part of the Muhammad Ali Amateur Club back then, this is the only clip of him.

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  10. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I get the feeling we aren't talking about the same thing (LOL).

    Darrin Allen wasn't a member of the Muhammad Ali Boxing club. Neither was Tyrell Biggs.

    There was an actual boxing club called the Muhammad Ali Boxing club. It wasn't started by Ali. Ali didn't train them. They didn't have to box like Muhammad Ali. Harold Smith - a guy who embezzled $20 million from a bank - formed Muhammad Ali Professional Sports (MAPS). Ali's involvement was Smith gave Ali money to use his name. And, occasionally, Ali would show up to an event. There was an amateur boxing club. There was a track team. A gym. And there were some professional boxers - like Scott Ledoux, Michael Spinks, Tommy Hearns, Gerry Cooney - who allowed Smith to promote them for a couple fights.

    Smith founded it in the org in 1979. By 1981, it was over. Smith was arrested for stealing $21 million and went to prison. Ali's rep was badly damaged.

    The only guy who really stayed in contact with Smith when he was in prison was Tubbs. Some said Smith guided Tony's career from prison. The rest of the team all scattered. Smith was in jail all thru the 80s. At the end of the decade, he got parole. And he tried to sign Roy Jones. Actually, when Al Haymon first arrived on the scene and was trying to advise boxers and sign fighters but wouldn't allow himself to be photographed, I thought Haymon was actually Harold Smith (LOL). But he wasn't.

    Anyway, that's what I was referring to ... the actual Muhammad Ali Boxing club which did exist for a couple years. But Ali really had nothing to do with it other than lend his name.

    Harold Smith provided all the money. Paid the trainers. Paid for the gym. Paid for housing where the fighters could live. Paid the amateur boxers so they'd sign up. Threw big coke parties to show them he was a fun guy. The boxers loved him. (Oh, Robert Shannon was another member of the team as an amateur, until the club folded.)

    Maybe I'm wrong, but you seem to be looking for guys who boxed like Muhammad Ali. That had nothing to do with the actual Muhammad Ali Boxing club. Boxing like Ali was "NOT" a requirement. (LOL)
     
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  11. Mr.Noob

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    Oof, sorry man! Now since you are dumping information on me like this, I really feel like a noob of boxing. I was mainly mentioning boxers who used the Muhammad Ali style but this is a way for me to learn from somebody smarter than me when it comes to this kind of stuff. I never really said that using the Ali style was a requirement to join the club, from what I have been looking at lately, a lot of them did use the dazzling style of Clay. So I started posting boxers who used the same style as Cassius because I am more of the lengthy, highly-energetic boxers, which is the reason why I can keep up with it but that's not the point. But I have a huge question, can you send me the link of how your getting this kind of information because this seems like you did some deep studies and you've been into the boxing game for years. If you can't provide the link, then guide me through this amazing story and how members of the Ali club fought in the amateur before it was eventually "folded" as you stated in your response. All I basically want is more info on this club because I have never heard one person talk about it besides you, which is awesome! Can you show me a couple of videos of these amazing amateur and maybe a mini-background story about them. Don't write too much, save you energy man! Let me change to title real quick so confusion doesn't haunt me XD.
     
  12. Richmondpete

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    You put so much effort into this and then ruined it by calling him Cassius marcellus clay, a name Ali loudly despised
     
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  13. Mr.Noob

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    It isn't meant any disrespect towards him like his opponents did only on purpose. But I mean, sure I'll change it XD. This is a legend we are talking about anyway.
     
  14. Mr.Noob

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    Tony Tucker is the best in my book and the reason why is because he fought the best of Mike Tyson a whole lot better than the rest of Iron's opponents could, WHILE USING THE MUHAMMAD ALI STYLE! Amazing boxer.
     
  15. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    I was personally trained under tutelage of the great Muhammad Ali

    I've never thrown a body punch in my life