How many decades will take for a better heavyweight than Usyk to appear

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MarkusFlorez99, Jan 12, 2026.


Who wins ?

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  1. 2-3 decades

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  2. 4-6 decades

    15.8%
  3. Century

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    0.0%
  4. It's never going to happen

    36.8%
  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have to consider the possibility that we're looking at the best heavyweight of all time. 6'3, 220lb Southpaw with the soviet style, has absurd iq and workrate, pops angles that make Lomachenko and Chris Byrd look like amateurs, I'm losing my faith in Ali, Lewis, Tyson, Holyfield, Holmes, and Vitali. They can't beat Usyk

    38 years of age and absolutely destroyed a prime elite super heavyweight KO artist in Dubois and outboxed Fury. Imagine how dominant Usyk would be if he were fighting these guys in his prime.

    When will we see a talent better than Usyk ? it's possible, but it might take at least 40 years
     
  2. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don’t worry bout it. If he carries on fighting an get koed against Kabayel or especially a shot Wilder in his next few fights then his rep will drop like a stone an no one will be wondering if he’s the greatest ever or not
     
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  3. BCS8

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    If Wilder knocks him out omg :ohno
     
  4. TNSNO1878

    TNSNO1878 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd say Usyk is in his prime; he lives the life, he's just as good now as he was when he was 30. I don't think he's got any worse or slowed down. Dubois is not elite on any level, either. We could see a better HW emerge in the next crop of heavyweights, who knows? The idea that Usyk is the GOAT at HW doesn't fly for me. I don't think he's anywhere near as indestructible as people make out. His resume is far too thin at HW, too many rematches, and mostly against heavyweights who will not be considered great when they decide to hang their gloves up, especially when the dust settles a decade or two down the line, and people reassess.
     
  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk has slowed down, thats obvious. Cruiserweight Usyk beats current Usyk off workrate and superior athleticism. Cmon man, no fighter is at their peak at 38 unless they started pretty late
     
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  6. TNSNO1878

    TNSNO1878 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk did turn pro at 26, to be fair, which is pretty late; he's also opted for quality matchups rather than quantity, so he hasn't had the same wars and wear and tear. I think the Usyk in the second Dubois fight was the best we have seen him at HW, he commanded the ring, went gunning for the knockout, and when he had Dubois on the hook, he finished him off far more brutally than he did in the first fight.
     
  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He already fought Dubois and had him figured out, thats why he did better in Fury and Dubois rematch. That's his iq. He's still not as good as an early 30s Usyk
     
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  8. TNSNO1878

    TNSNO1878 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He had him figured out within the first 2 rounds of the first fight, I think. Dubois just isn't on that level; it's one of the great promotional jobs by Warren, elevating that low-IQ headbutt King anywhere close to world level, but the way he put his foot down and knocked him out in the 2nd fight was a testament to Usyk still being just as high-quality and dangerous now as he was when he fought Bellew and Breidis, I think anyway. I don't think he's got any worse; he's got bigger and adapted, but he's still light years ahead.
     
  9. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's not better. He's physically declined. His iq has not increased, his boxing skills have not improved since his early 30s. He does hit harder though because he doesn't move as fast and sets his feet more and this was a factor against Dubois. Usyk is just that good that a diminished version is still elite.

    Dubois might not be elite and but he was much younger and coming off his best win
     
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  10. TNSNO1878

    TNSNO1878 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I didn't say he was better, I just said he hasn't got any worse. How do you think he's physically declined? He went from a pretty competitive 12 rounds against Chisora to slapping Fury from corner to corner and should've got the TKO win. He doesn't move as fast because he's carrying more weight and has adapted, I think, anyway. I see no signs that Usyk has declined; his last 2 wins were arguably his 2 best performances at HW.
     
  11. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    His IQ definitely increased.
     
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  12. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Speed, upper body movement, workrate. He's waned a bit. He is old but still gold. I think Usyk knows he's getting old, he wants to target the old names instead of the younger contenders and dip before father time catches up
     
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  13. rolzone

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    We already have him! His name is Itauma, No? That’s what we are being told
     
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  14. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It’s a ridiculous question.

    A better heavyweight might already be amongst us. Or it could be that a better one is a decade or more away.

    We are still awaiting a better heavyweight than Ali in my opinion.
     
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  15. BCS8

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    This. Usyk is visibly slower and less liquid in his movements. Yeah, he's stronger and arguably tougher but in my opinion for a fighter like him speed is everything.