How Many Former Sub 200lbsHeavyweight Champions & Contenders Would Be Ranked Now?

The cruiserweight division is actually very good, full of skilled fighters who make can make for good fights.

Yet we don't see any of them moving up to fight Joshua, Ortiz, Wlad, or even Wilder? The heavyweight division is as weak as I've seen it in decades....i

Why? Obviously, they are too small, just like a welterweight isn't going to fight a light heavyweight, even if we all know welterweights in the top ten generally have more skills than Light heavyweights in the top ten.

The difference between 147-175 is 28 pounds, but the difference between Wlad and Joshua and the top cruisers is about 40 pounds. And the height and reach disparity would be huge.

Like it or not, the game has evolved to very tall and big men, able to bomb each other at a range seldom seen decades ago, and with much greater accuracy. It is, what it is.

For the smaller guy to win, he'll need big time power, a very durable body, and an attacking oriented swarming type of style that won't fall victim to mauling or clinching. A tall order!

For the biggest fans of Dempsey, Marciano, And Louis, the best sub 200 pounders or close to it, I do think their chances would be better if they used lighter gloves like they did in their day. These modern gloves take away the power, so the old-time champions would not hit as hard. You could argue each man would be about 10-15 pounds heavier today, but I'm not sure if it would help or hurt them. Probably a bit of both.

 

Tyson Fury is lineal champ.
If you're using RING magazines rankings, isn't Fury still champ?

 

I'm not, I'm using TBRB

 

Yeah, sorry, I get that now.
So the TBRB have declared the title vacant ??

 

Fury did in his statement.

 

Was Fury B sample ever tested for drugs? Just curious, as he was acting crazy and admitted to using drugs. He might have bene on something illegal for Wlad ( Even pot is illegal ), so his lineal championship could change with a drug test.

 

Fury makes all sorts of statements.
He certainly gave up the belts, but the belts aren't the lineal championship.

It seems to TBRB don't even have him in the top 10, yet Wladimir (who has been inactive as long as Fury has) is ranked #1.
To me, this doesn't really make sense.

 

Yeah, Fury was stoned out of his face on some serious strength weed. That's why he threw so few punches.
What was Wlad's excuse ?

 

Do you think Fury was on something illegal or not? I think there is a real chance, so test his B sample. No reason why not, he's out of boxing now.

Wlad has no real excuse, he should have won but your asking. He was 39. Old. He has been champion for so long, he likely under estimated Fury, who by chance was in shape and fought the right type of fight. Wlad adjusted way too late.

His fault, and he knows it.

 

The rules and conditions just dont favour sub 200 pounders AS THEY WERE.

In all other divisions fighters out "great" each other. In the Superheavyweight division they can "out size" rather than out "great" each other.

Skill, class, talent...It can be horribly neutralized with big gloves, shorter rounds and huge size disadvantages.

It's time it was just called the Superheavyweight division. Call the cruisers "heavyweights" they are the true descendents of classic heavyweight boxing not these oafish Jess Willards..

 

They've removed him from the rankings because he said he can't fight nor defend hus championship until he gets help.

 

Not at all, most SHW's today win on size, take a cruiser David Haye who could punch as a cruiser now as a SHW he still can crack. And as far as SHW's being plentiful that's not so at all. Cruisers far outnumber SHW's, it's just that SHW's get more attention then do the cruisers thus more opportunities to be seen. Everybody has seen the decline in ability with the SHW's. There is a cruiser fighting now Murat Gussiev that punches as hard as any SHW, he's only 23 wait a few yrs and you will see him at SHW, punching just as hard without the fat.

 

So you are saying there are no more SHW's today than 20, 40, 60, 80 years ago? I'm inclined to disagree.

If they are not more dangerous why do they make up basically all of the top 10?

 

I think I have explained that already but I will do so again. Small HW's even a guy who is 220-5, is considered small, are now classified as cruisers, or small HW's, cruisers and smaller HW's, dont get the opportunity to develop or given the opportunities to fight, there is no money in the cruisers or for smaller HW's. Look across the board in the HW ranking's and even the titleholders who is there really? A stack of SHW's who dont impress anybody except their mama's. Then you got a young untried Joshua, and maybe Wilder if he can learn to fight. I think a there is a mega fight brewing if both can maintain their "0", between Wilder and Joshua. Neither has faced a tough opponent like a Evander Holyfield, a smaller but tougher man. Let's wait and see maybe the SHW's can deliver but up to now, I cant say that I am as excited as I used to be about the HW division.