How many forty five year old boxers could have knocked out Michael Moorer?

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  1. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The AI models are different and don't work the same way. I use them regularly for work. Claude, for example, works quite differently than GPT it seems. Gemini can ingest way more data than the others, but can be hit and miss. Then there's the Chinese model Deepseek, which is a complete fork compared to how the other AI's were developed. I'm not familiar with Grok, although I know it's prone to do weird things from time to time. And Copilot sucks.
     
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  2. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Brutal KO of Mike Weaver in his late 40s. I think age 49. Caught Weaver as he charged in with a perfect right to the chin that Weaver didn't see coming. Weaver fell like he'd been shot, out like a light.
     
  3. ThatOne

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    We are discussing athletes who competed at a championship level. A lot of those athletes weren't. You via Chat GPT cited Udonis Haslem. Haslem played 65 games in the last eight years of his career. One NBA season is 82 games.In his last season he played for the Miami Heat he was 4/1/.397 and appeared in all of seven games. He was a human victory cigar. If you or Chat GPT believe that's championship level performance, there is nothing I can do to disabuse you or it of that notion.
     
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  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Foreman landed 1 punch which gave him a single win over a top ten opponent during his entire comeback.

    I’m sure Haslem would’ve done great in the G League.
     
  5. NoNeck

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    I was thinking of Matthew Greer. Brutal stuff.
     
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  6. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can’t remember what Greer did to **** him off so bad. Rabbit punched I guess?
     
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  7. Dynamicpuncher

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    Witherspoon was 44 years old when he brutally stopped Darroll Wilson maybe he has an outside chance of a hail mary overhand right ?

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  8. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We have established that Chat GPT is a reliable and authoratative


    Michael Moorer was 35-0 and was the WBO and IBF champion when George Foreman put him to sleep. He's in the International Boxing Hall of Fame. If a basketball player reached that level he's not playing for the Sioux Falls Skyforce. ChatGPT throws out a lot of names. Half Man/Half Amazing and the Big Chief weren't playing at championship levels when they retired
     
  9. NoNeck

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    Neither was Foreman.
     
  10. ThatOne

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    I'm glad we agree that Chat GPT is an authoritative and virtually irrefutable source so instead of asking it an amorphous question like who competed in sports for a really long time or who was really good at sports even after competing in sports for a really long time let's just ask it where George Foreman winning the heavyweight title at 45 years old ranks among other sports feats:

    Where does George Foreman winning the heavyweight championship at 45 years old rank among sports feats


    George Foreman winning the heavyweight championship at 45 years old is widely considered one of the greatest feats in sports history—not just in boxing, but across all athletic disciplines. Here's how it ranks and why:


    Why It’s So Extraordinary

    1. Age Defiance:
      • Heavyweight boxing is brutal, and most fighters retire in their 30s.

      • Foreman not only competed but knocked out a 26-year-old champion (Michael Moorer) to reclaim the title after a 10-year retirement.
    2. Historic Significance:
      • He became the oldest heavyweight champion in history (a record still unbroken as of 2025).

      • He won the title 20 years after first winning it in 1973—a feat of longevity and perseverance.
    3. Underdog Victory:

      • Foreman was a 3-to-1 underdog.

      • He was behind on all scorecards before the stunning 10th-round KO.

    Where It Ranks Among All-Time Sports Feats
    Top-Tier Comparables:
    • Tom Brady winning the Super Bowl at 43 (NFL longevity & excellence).

    • Serena Williams winning a Grand Slam while pregnant (2017 Australian Open).

    • Michael Jordan returning to win 3 more NBA titles after retirement.

    • Tiger Woods winning the 2019 Masters after years of injury and setbacks.
    In polls and expert rankings, Foreman's win is consistently ranked in the top 10 of greatest sports comebacks or achievements, often top 5 when focusing on individual comebacks or underdog triumphs.

    Legacy & Impact

    • Redefined what was possible in terms of age and performance in elite sports.

    • Made him an icon not only for his boxing career but also for his reinvention and resilience.
    Final Verdict
    Foreman's 1994 win is arguably the greatest comeback and age-defying feat in boxing history, and one of the most inspirational and unlikely achievements in all of sports.

    Would you like a comparison chart or infographic placing it alongside other great sports feats?


    If you like I will ask Grok and Gemini the same question
     
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  11. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Klitschko’s and Lennox Lewis may be able to do this, but I’m uncertain.
     
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