How many healthy shoulders would Loma need to beat a prime JMM?

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How many healthy (non injured, legitimate) sLomo shoulders beat one prime JMM?

  1. 3

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    0.0%

  2. 5

    1 vote(s)
    5.3%

  3. 10 or more

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    42.1%

  4. Prime JMM wins

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    52.6%
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  1. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How many healthy Lomo shoulders beat one JMM?

    Lomo: 1000-1 in amateurs, no legit losses in pros (low blows, shoulder injury)

    Marquez 5 losses, also:
    - at least 3-1 vs. Pac on aggregate scorecards
    - clear win over MAB
    - TKO of Juan Diaz
    - dominated sLomo's dad (prime Salidaddio)
    - TKO of Olympic legend Casamayor
    - clear win of Agapito
    - arguably beat Norwood, John
    - made Morales run like a fat Tijuana beyatch

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  2. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Depends how lomachenko fights against marquez tbf.. Both at feather.. If lomachenko comes at him marquez koes him clean

    If lomachenko boxes off the back foot it'd be alot closer and he could possibly sneak a win.

    Dinamita is my all time favourite fighter.. But he hates a mover, and anyone who used their legs and fight off the back foot he didn't impress against... I can see how loma could make it difficult for him

    Wheeler, gainer, John, norwood.. I don't hold the Floyd of Bradley losses against him too much as he was not suited to welterweight.... (yeah I know his best win is at welter but he just had pacmans number)

    In regards to how many shoulders he'd need to win.. Both and maybe another few legs lol
     
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  3. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Problem is: every seasoned, skilled fighter with proper timing was able to tag Loma: Salido, Linares, Campbell - plus young, unrefined Fimo. Course he won some of these but dismisses hype of Loma dodging bullets like Neo, a trap I fell into with Hasegawa back in the day, all those flashy skills and whatnot, but susceptible to proper timing, and JMM is a master in that with KO power, top-end stamina, incredible angles, legendary combinations and and lethal accuracy. As far as John goes, a lanky fighter who's career was built around the long, boring quick jab and solid D is not a formula Lomo's capable of replicating, and knowing Daddychenko, he'd ask for that KO you've said he should avoid.
     
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  4. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Offensive boxers get hit lol I get your trying to dig at lomachenko.. Probably sick to death of people who declared him the greatest thing since sliced bread n sucked him off.. I get it but it doesn't take away from the fact he's a great fighter

    Saying lomachenko gets tagged off any seasoned vet... I should hope so... He isn't pernell whittaker.. He's a great offensive fighter with some pretty unique footwork as far as fighters go.... Offensive fighters are always gonna get hit more than defensive fighters.... ... Me saying I think loma would probably get banged out by marquez at featherweight.. No shame in that
     
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  5. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Jmm too good and too powerful for Loma
     
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  6. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    JMM is not all that great vs boxers. There's evidence of this. I'd probably pick him still because Loma's footwork is all close range. JMM has problems with guys that move a lot longer distances.
     
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  7. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    2?
     
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  8. recycling

    recycling Active Member Full Member

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    JMM I feel is all wrong for Lomachenko. Thought this before Lomas loss. People talk about JMM struggling against boxers; FM was way too big, bradley was a close fight and had a speed advantage as well as being unpredicatable. People also talk about the early years but JMM didnt really struggle imo, those were awkward southpaw boxers who fought as negative as possible and JMM still adjusted. Aggressive Loma will be figured out by JMM and a boxer Loma doesnt hold speed advantage too outbox JMM nor does Loma actually outbox fighters off the back foot.
     
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  9. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Marquez will figure Loma out and then put in the work. He got dropped by Linares. Remember salido? Come Marquez is an ATG. He fought all the way to 147 and still beasting. Loma is good but he is not in the ATG talks at this stage.
     
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  10. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    At least 3
     
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  11. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just a troll now... expected from a 17yo I suppose
     
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  12. BigBone

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    Correct, plus timing beats speed anyway, unless ur very fast, very young, and even then u have Danny G / Montiel timing Khan / Hasegawa out. Loma is obviously superior, yet barely past 30 and getting knocked down & out-boxed, he ain't aging like Floyd, Bernard or JMM, hence the timing disadvantage. And JMM timed Casamayor, an arguably more troublesome style, I say Loma is far easier to figure out, just takes someone very disciplined to do so, and JMM like you said is a timelord all wrong for sLomo.
     
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  13. fitzroy boy_iron mike

    fitzroy boy_iron mike Active Member Full Member

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    This thread is legit
     
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  14. recycling

    recycling Active Member Full Member

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    I think loma can still have a long career, but hes not as good as those you mention. Unless, he gets better with experience which can still happen. Hes only around 30.
     
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  15. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Jmm to big
     
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