How many heavies in the last 25 years could beat Joe Frazier, Does it hurt ALI?

atsch

 

Er, no, they don't.
Rahman would die from Frazier.
Who are the 20 others?

 

I'm not a big Frazier fan but I think he would do well in this era too. He would win a lot and lose few. I think Wlad would have his hands full with Frazier's frenetic pace, bobbing, and he was always able to land his blows.

 

another no knowledge boring noobatsch

 

well it's hard to count the past 10 or so years, because frazier would have to be a cruiser in this era. that said if frazier were 6'2 and a minimum 225 solid, he'd dominate today outside of wlad who he could well beat. I'd favor lewis, tyson, bowe, holy (very close), vitaly and maybe a few others would have a fair chance of beating frazier.

 

tyson, holy, bowe, holmes, mike spinks

 

Rahman and Sanders :-(

 

Frazier would be undisputed champion today, with at least three belts.

Unless he was served up some chump mandos and decided to vacate now and then.

The only heavy of the past ten years that would beat him would be Lennox Lewis.

 

I'm a big Wlad fan, but Frazier would rip his body to shreds. I think Klitschko would better suited against a guy liek Liston or Louis. head hunters who he can box easier. Whether he would beat them is another discussion, but he has a better chance.

Frazier would bob and weave to get on th inside and unleash his left hook onto Klitschko's ribs. A we know, Klitschko doesn't have the best stamina so you'd assume a body puncher like Frazier would take full advantage of that.

Frazier KO 7 Klitschko.

As for Rahman, Ibeabuchi and Sanders...come on. These guys stand no chance.

 

But he wasn't 6'2" 225, he was 5'10" 205. I know people love talking up the Ali-Frazier-Foreman era, but Joe would not be anywhere near a top heavy today. If his activity alone is enough to beat Wlad then Povetkin should mop the floor with him, but activity does not necessarily a fight win.

Of the last 20 years I'd pick Lewis, Wladimir and Vitali, Bowe, Holyfield, Tyson, Tua, Ibeabuchi, probably a prime Moorer (dude could crack and was a very good boxer), Virchis, Chagaev, Valuev, Povetkin.

I know I am "dissing" the great Frazier, but some people really overrate previous eras, especially since they don't take into consideration that guys like Joe Louis were 6'1" and 192, Ali was 6'3" and 208 (combine pre-and post suspension prime weights), Foreman was 6'3" and 215 much of his career. These guys weren't huge, they are big men but even small heavies, like Eddie Chambers, are 6'1" and 217, and middle road heavies like Povetkin and Chagaev are 6'1-6'3" and 225-230. And they aren't unskilled or lack stamina like some would have many believe.

 

Frazier was relentless. Ban this fool.

 

And no it doesn't hurt Ali, just comparing eras doesn't often work, especially when they are 30-40 years apart.

 

The fact that he was much lighter has no meaning, and he could have been either a cruiser or a heavy.

A cruiser with decent pop and speed is just wasting their time, they should just move up for the prestige.

 

He wasn't 5"10, he was 6".
And blind in one eye nearly.
With high blood pressure.
And bad joints.

Today, he wouldn't have all that jazz.

Virchis beating Frazier?