How many heavyweight champions would Povetkin beat?

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  1. BCS8

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    What? A reasonable post? No, no, we can't have that! :nono
     
  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    I do like him silly boy. He is my favourite HW after Fury and I followed him long before before you even knew he existed. This is how I have the division
    Tyson Fury
    Alexander Povetkin/

    Because he is good in this era , does not mean he'd be good in previous era's. This is the worst HW era known to man. I wouldn't favour Fury against former ATGs any more than I would Povetkin.

    The difference between me and you , is i'm not a fanboi guided by fandom. I call it as it is.
     
  3. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Povetkin has beaten several top ten rated opponents. If Wlad retried 5 years ago, he would be on his 5+th title defense by now.

    Chambers was 25, Chagaev only 32. Both were top ten rated guys. Takam is/was a top ten guy, he was 33.

    Povetkin has been ranked in the top ten by Ring Magazine for 414 weeks. He's for real.

    Its rather convenient of you to leave out facts.

    As long as an Easter Euro guy is on top, you'll say the division sucks. The cold war's over.
     
  4. HerolGee

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    its never been that at all. top means near the top or at it.

    lies mate. an argument based on lies. rahman wasn't one of the top contenders - even when he got to lewis he wasn't top.

    But I appreciate how you are letting me beat your arguments by you self destructing them.
     
  5. HerolGee

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    but you are aware that kliturd is now an established name for a klitschko diehard fan, yes? So that you are self referencing each time you mention them. fair enough.
     
  6. mr. magoo

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    Not all of Povetkin's wins were against washed up foes or weak ones. He has a few decent wins against some able bodied contenders. And remember that the aged ones were beaten when he was mostly a prospect himself with very few pro fights.. But when the question of "elite" opponents comes into play, he's only faced one and that one elite guy beat him. Therefore its difficult to give him the green light to be favored against proven great lineal champions.
     
  7. McGrain

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    Povetkin looks an absolute beast to me.
     
  8. mcvey

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    You picked his best wins not me ,I merely pointed out where they were in their respective careers at the time.
    Donald was 39 years old and 20lbs over weight, who did he ever beat anyway? A 39 years old Witherspoon ,a 36 years old Biggs
    he was only ever a marginal contender at his best. Byrd was past his best , nearly 37 years old..Chagaev had a majority win over Valuev and that was his claim to fame. Chambers was unranked when he fought Povetkin he didn't crack the top ten till the following year.

    Takam? He specialises in the grey beards.
    Botha 44
    Thompson 42
    Sprott 40
    Grant 41

    If he was any good he would fight some one in his prime.



    Povetkin is one of the best contenders but his resume is very shallow
     
  9. HerolGee

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    yeh that was odd the way he tried to make out the failure in his own argument, was yours.
     
  10. dinovelvet

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    Whats so good about Tackam?

    Mike Perez was out boxing him before he mentally switched after a head butt. And Perez wasn't even looking that good to start off having been rattled over the Mago tragedy.

    Takcam went 4 rounds with Nascimento. Dillion Whyte had just taken him out in two rounds.

    Have a read through this cos knocks outs cause amnesia

    http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=520505&highlight=disclaimer&page=9
     
  11. janitor

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    If Wlad decided to retire tomorrow, and an elimination tournament were held to find his successor, I think it would end up being Povetkin.
     
  12. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    That would be Fury clearly. Povetkins short hooks would not be effective on Tyson in the slightest .

    He'd be clubbed , spinned and turned all night long.
     
  13. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    This is where I disagree. Povetkin has many wins over top ten guys. He has fought the best out there for the most part and still has a few good years left in him.

    Outside of Wlad he's un-defeated.
     
  14. mr. magoo

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    I agree with what you say, but the phrase " Oustside of Wlad " isn't the reality. Especially not when you're trying to make a case for him beating lineal champions and he lost to the one lineal champion he's faced, not to mention one who was 37 years old and basically dominated him. I agree that he's beaten some contenders but not anyone that I'm willing to call elite.
     
  15. janitor

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    Povetkin would give Fury a boxing lesson.