How many heavyweight champs

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Stewbear, Aug 23, 2007.


  1. Stewbear

    Stewbear Active Member Full Member

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    have been knocked out by bodyshots from natural middleweights?
    I can only think of two.
     
  2. Thread Stealer

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    Corbett, Holyfield.

    Holyfield was stopped due to an accumulation of both head and body though.
     
  3. Zakman

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    :lol:

    I love this new tack from Lewis fans. ANYTHING to try to downgrade Evander and pump yer guy up, hmmm?

    Sorry, nobody's buying. Particularly considering that unlike Lewis when he was blasted out by journeymen, Holyfield was 40 years old and WELL past his prime!! And Toney in an ATG fighter, not some ordinary palooka.
     
  4. box03

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    Lewis was a pretty good heavywieght but he never beat a great hevywieght that was in his prime like holyfield did in his second fight against bowe
     
  5. MrSmall

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    "Blown up middleweight", **** off with that.
     
  6. Zakman

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    These Lewis fans are continually grasping at straws to "prove" their man is greater than Evander Holyfield - despite the fact that you never saw Holy get blasted out early by ordinary fighters when he held the title. Heck, you never saw him get blasted out early AT ALL!!!:yep
     
  7. box03

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    yeah but Lewis got knocked out by lesser oponents who did he ever beat in his prime vitali made his legs look like jelly when they fought
     
  8. PowerPuncher

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    You don't need to grasp at straws to see Lennox was the greater HW you just have to watch their fights and watch Holyfields head get used as a speed ball

    Every fighter has low moments in their career, Lennox avenged both his losses against 2 of the hardest 1punch artists around.

    Holyfield lost against 2 former middleweights (Toney and Byrd), a former light heavyweight with a weak chin (Moorer) and 2 club fighters (Ruiz and Donald).

    Holyfield is great and so is Lewis. Lewis has the better overall resume though
     
  9. Stewbear

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    Lol I think you are the only one who has said that so far.........
     
  10. Thread Stealer

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    What made Bowe "great"? The fact that Holyfield lost to him.

    Bowe was no doubt a very talented fighter, but outside of beating Holyfield twice, nothing he did would suggest that he was a "great" fighter. He beat a few fringe contenders, maybe a couple of the cusp of the top 10 at the time.
     
  11. Stewbear

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    All time great pie eater maybe, btu not exactly a dominant force at heavy, but his pathetic power(for a heavyweight) still broke Holyfields fragile glass body in half:good
     
  12. Zakman

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    A 37 year old, past his prime Evander Holyfield - and I wouldn't exactly say that Holyfield used his head at a "speed ball" Their fights - particularly the second one - were far more competitive than Lewis fans like to make out, and this against a fading Holyfield. Prime for prime would be a WHOLE different ballgame. :yep
     
  13. box03

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    yeah and McCall and rahman were world class fighters get the hell out of here with that **** thats why lewis needed guys like tyson and holyfield to make any money nobody wanted to see him fight its lucky for him he fought holyfield 5 years out of his prime and tyson close to 14 years out of his prime amazing champ let me tell you
     
  14. Boinko

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    You silly guys. Don't you know that none of Evander's losses after the Tyson fights count. He was past his prime thus they cannot be held against him in any way.
    And similarly, his losses to Bowe don't count either because Bowe was the bigger man and Holyfield showed a lot of heart.

    You obviously haven't attended the class "Holyfield Apologism 101."
     
  15. Thread Stealer

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    I don't think you've attended or passed that class either, because you left out all the injuries and ailments.

    And my favorite one of all,

    "Not only was Holyfield shot in the first Lewis fight, but he lost his motivation when he couldn't fulfill God's plan to win in round 3".