How many heavyweights could have put Ketchel away like Jack Johnson did?

I don't think you sincerely doubt their ability to ice Stanley Ketchel if they were to catch him flush with their best right left combination. Before you say you doubt those fighters could knock out 160 lb. Ketchel with their best shots, think about what you're saying. It's not as though Johnson did anything special to set up those shots. Johnson was floored. Then an angry Johnson, which no matter how angry hits harder than the fighters I mentioned, walked across the ring an knocked Ketchel out.

 

This thread stinks of a bend-over-backwards attempt to glorify a journeymen's day of work for Johnson, a 12th rd. KO of a middleweight.

If WK took 12 rounds to KO Pavlik, he would be excoriated.

If he were KD'd in the process he would be laughed out of the sport.

 

Most past champions could have done the same, and would have needed less rounds.

 

If any one, barring .Mendoza ,can watch this fight and NOT acknowledge that Johnson is carrying Ketchel,there is no hope for them as far as reading a fight goes.I think Janitor is trying to get posters to give an opinion on A Johnson's power ,when motivated,and B how it stacks up against other heavy champs.Johnson weighed 205 1/2 and Ketchel 170 1/4,so roughly 30lbs disparity,Johnson was NEVER noted as a banger.Lets go a step further Joe Louis WHO WAS CELEBRATED AS A BANGER,and rightfully so ,takes on Billy Conn who weighed 169 ,though it was given as 174,Louis comes in at 1991/2,same weight disparity,Conn goes 12 rds and hurts Louis on at least two occasions before getting cocky and bombed out .Compare Ketchel ,an all time great puncher who twice kod the reigning LH Champ O Brien,being destroyed with ONe -punch and Conn being kod with a salvo from the Brown Bomber,Louis gets credit for grabbing victory from the jaws of defeat .Johnson gets slagged for taking on and koing Ketchel WITH ONE PUNCH.

 

Johnson liked to toy around with guys when things were going his way, but I'm not sure he wasn't trying to win rounds, or pulling punches. The fight was not close.

I think Johnson had solid power. Say on Holmes or Ali's level.

Conn to me was much track down and hit then Ketchel, but I do hold it against Louis because and almost had him beat. Check that, Louis was close to going down and was staggered by non-punching supper middle.

 

Johnson's icing of Ketchell has always been evidence to me of Lil' Arthur's greatness.

As was customary to him, Johnson was most definitely carrying the Michigan Assassin, content to win by decision. When Ketchell wakes him up with that overhand right, Johnson does EXACTLY what a true heavyweight great would to any middleweight, no matter how great: place him flat on his back with one tremendous punch, which by the way requires not just brute strength but killer instinct and great accuracy.

Talk about instant redemption via an unquestionable flourish of ability!