How many losses would Floyd have vs Mosley's opposition?

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  1. I disagree, its like why change something which doesnt need to be changed, hes had sucsess doing it his way throughout his career why bring in something new which could potenially harm his game.
     
  2. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    agreed, Floyd just needs to make sure he doesn't sell all that a-side meth while he's in jail where he wouldn't have enough left for himself.:deal
     
  3. pahapoisu

    pahapoisu Superman! Full Member

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    Winky at 154. I dont know about Forrest. The whole Mayorga things leaves me to think about it.
     
  4. Snakefist

    Snakefist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd beats Oscar -- Oscar has the same issues as he had in their fight.
     
  5. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    you think so. As long as he trains him right and doesn't cut down on his skill work he should be ok. I think he can bring back some of his old speed and his freshen his legs up more.
     
  6. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    probably 6 or 7.

    Winky twice for sure. Oscar at least 1/2. Forrest at least 1/2. Pacquiao.
     
  7. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  8. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    The Oscar that rematched Mosley could beat Floyd, Forrest that beat Mosley if he made a war out of it, Winky would too, and Cotto that outboxed Mosley also had a chance. That was Cotto at his best. So Floyd would be sporting 2 losses at the very least.
     
  9. PinoyProdigy

    PinoyProdigy Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The only fight Floyd would lose in is the fight with himself. :rofl
     
  10. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He already outboxed a bigger stronger Oscar, at an unatural weight of 154. Forrest got schooled by a crude Mayorga. No way he has the skills and smarts to compete with Floyd. Winky had a tremendous size advantage, but he would get figured out eventually. And Cotto, was and always will be a B+ fighter and was never even in Floyd's league. Arum knew this and that's why he never put Cotto in there with Floyd.
     
  11. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Oscar was much better in his prime as a welterweight; just as durable, much more dynamic offensively, much sharper defensively, much more relentless, much more consistent with his jab, and much more of a two-handed fighter.

    Forrest getting beat by a wild, awkward Brawler in Mayorga says little about the stylistic implications of Floyd and Forrest matching up together. I don't think it's impossible for Floyd to win, but pointing to Mayorga is the wrong route.

    I could see Floyd figuring Winky out and creating opportunities to land without getting hit much himself, but given his jab and size and guard, it's no guarantee.

    Cotto at his best beat a still game Sugar Shane Mosley with elite skills. He obviously wouldn't be the favorite against someone as accomplished as Floyd, but stylistically, he had the tools to make the fight competitive. Arum may have circumvented that fight the first time, but he sure as hell didn't care when Cotto got in there with Margarito and Pacquiao later on at Welterweight. That whole missing year of Floyd's career includes a void where that fight with Cotto could have generated millions; Arum didn't make him retire. I'm not saying Floyd was scared, but he didn't take the biggest challenges of that red hot era and Arum was not the one who made him retire, so using Arum as an argument for Floyd beating Cotto doesn't add up; it's not like he's a supreme analyst.

    Then of course is Pacquiao, who everybody figures Floyd will beat after the Marquez fight, but the dynamics don't translate directly and he'd have a shot at the upset.

    It's not absurd at all to think that out of those 4 or 5 including Pac, Floyd might pick up 2 losses, give or take. Like I said before, my best pick would be Oscar in his prime.
     
  12. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    Ok and you do know that Floyd is nothing like Mayorga or Quartey? You know he's not as NATURAL big and strong as those two? You do realize that you dumb ****in wanna be yo.

    And Mayorga caught Forrest and the rest of the boxing world by surprise. Forrest was just suppose to run through Forrest in a high profile unification which on paper looked like a tune up for Forrest..... In the second fight even thought his left shoulder was injured he still managed to outbox Mayorga and shouldve gotten the decision.

    Dont try and tell me **** about boxing because clearly you just look on boxrec and look at number in height and arm length and records instead of watching a fight.
     
  13. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Many feel, including myself that Oscar was a better Light Middleweight then Welterweight.

    Regardless, Oscar when he fought FLoyd was 10lbs heavier and Floyd had not yet even grown into Welterweight yet.

    Take Floyd from the Mosley fight, where he is walking down Mosley down, outmuscling him, bullying Mosley around, and its an entirely different prospect then Light Middleweight Oscar fighting a Junior Welterweight Mayweather.

    Oscar never fought a boxer as skilled as Mayweather at Welter. THe only 2 pure boxers he really faced at the weight were a faded Sweet Pea, and Ike Quartey and they both arguably beat him. Oscar would not have the physical advantages over Floyd that he did at light middleweight, which was the main reason he was able to keep the fight close.

    YOu see welterweight Oscar walking down Mayweather of the Mosley fight like he did at Light Middle?

    We arent discussing Forrests struggles with Mayorga's style. We are discussing Forrests propensity to swinging wild and not being able to fight on the inside. THis applies to all his fights not just MAyorga. Same problem occured against Ike Quartey.
    Cotto's skills are serviceable. He was on his way to losing that fight and switched his style up and pulled out the last couple rounds. Fair play to him. However, he's lax defensively and his right cross is close to below average. He very much is a one handed fighter. And because of his style his left hand is the power hand. And Floyds stance and style neutralizes the left hook. IF you are gonna hit Floyd out of the orthodox stance it has to be the right hand.
     
  14. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    this thread is moot cause floyd won't risk fighting anyone who is as dangerous as pacquiao let alone fighting forrest, and winky. floyd struggled against a past his best oscar, could you imagine what would happen against a prime one?
     
  15. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Dangerous as Pacquiao. :lol: Pacquiao couldnt beat a lightweight.

    This thread was made because nobody currently is a threat to Floyd thus we have to go into the past.

    Pacquiao cant even beat Marquez. Maybe this hasnt reached the pilipinas yet, but nobody really considers Pac a threat anymore.