How many more losses would Lennox Lewis have if he fought these 5 fighters?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    My favourite fighter is a white heavyweight Jack Dempsey.
    You have a long history of verbally fellating Jim Jeffries and Vitali Klitschko meanwhile disparaging Ali,Louis,Lewis,Frazier.
    I think that tells us all we need to know about you.

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  2. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lewis would have KO'd Moorer and Ruiz. He wasn't afraid of them.
     
  3. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak New Member Full Member

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    The only version of Tyson that beats Lewis is pre-prison Tyson (who I think probably knocks him out or outpoints him as the clear aggressor in the judges eyes - similar to the Tony Tucker fight)

    As a bunch of people have already mentioned, Holyfield was thoroughly beaten in their first fight two years later. That "draw" is one of the biggest travesties of the modern era. It's hard to not think Lewis would have beaten Holyfield two years earlier. Holyfield always struggled against tall guys with above average jabs. I think Holyfield would probably always get out-boxed by Lewis.

    Klitschko's performance against Lewis has always been overrated. He fought well, but a horribly (and I mean, horribly) conditioned Lewis still stopped him on account of massive face carnage. If Lewis is motivated (something he would have been, considering all of the people criticizing him after that fight) and properly trains for the rematch, he probably stops Klitschko late. It would have been a great fight to see, though.

    None of the other guys on that list would have had much of a chance.
     
  4. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    no one would have given them a real chance either.

    NO - you'd need to list someone who can ostensibly beat Lennox Lewis in order to ping up a vote. When you do this, this will happen but not until.
     
  5. HerolGee

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    prime vitali would have a fair chance with a 40something lewis, but that would be a hell of a long time for a champion to hang around making fake defences in order to machinate that.

    He'd need to fight smart this time though - not go all for broke. His way to win would be to wait till 40something lennox gasses out, and then close in and unleash everything he has on the gassed oldster.

    course you'd need a time machine! to keep vitali in his prime.
     
  6. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Gee, you Lewis dik riding clown, your guy was sparked out dead twice by guys that couldn't lace Vitali's gloves. He ran away from the ordered and promised rematch and quit in disgrace. A loss by default.
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    What's the matter ? Not getting the replies you wanted?
    :lol:

    The day you have $50,000 to bet ,I'll be a multi millionaire:yep
     
  8. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    People act like fights are at a constant and never change. Did Lewis get sparked in the Rahman rematch? If fighters are exactly the same throughout their careers, then why wasn't the outcome the same? The answer is because fighters, like everyone else, have good days and bad.

    And if Vitali is so much better than the two guys who beat Lewis, then why did his face look like he was hit by a truck, and why did he loose the fight against a clearly rusty Lewis?

    And if you want to believe Lewis lost to V.K. because after WINNING the fight between them he chose to retire, then you're delusional.
     
  9. BCS8

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    I think the replies are pretty good so far. Lennox was very good, which is why the people saying he loses none are saying what they are saying.

    I take a more balanced view of it, seeing that his already-hard schedule suddenly became a great deal harder. Any one of these re-calibrated fights have the potential of turning sour on a dime and putting years of mileage on the clock for Lewis.

    It's actually a pretty big ask that Mendoza is putting to Lewis if you stop and really think about it. I said he'd lose two fights, but it could be more. Holyfield is a quantum leap over Akinwande at that age, as is Ibeabuchi over the flaky Golota. A tough night at the office with The President for instance would make all the next fights that much harder because of the additional wear and tear on Lennox.

    Frankly it's a huge compliment to Lewis that he's considered equal to the task of meeting this 'new' schedule.
     
  10. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There was a thread in general about Ike against Lewis and most thought Lewis would box his way to a win. That's probably the most likely scenario.
     
  11. Rumsfeld

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    I'm surprised so many people think Lewis would have any losses.

    The majority has it right, I think - but I think these poll results are suggestive of some real wishful thinking from individuals I imagine probably were picking against Lewis frequently and incorrectly during his impressive championship reign.
     
  12. BCS8

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    Even taken individually these fights are tough asks (but doable). As part of an already-stacked career they become much more so. I suspect that you are perhaps not thinking this through all the way.
     
  13. Pugilist_Spec

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    Lewis was an inconsistent performer at the top level and got complacent very quickly once he unified the titles. The Holyfield and Vitali fights were thin affairs when they actually happened, and the conditions listed by the OP would only give them more of an advantage.

    Not to mention that Lewis never faced a southpaw, and Sanders might have just been the most dangerous one in heavyweight history.

    Even Ibeabuchi brings an incredible workrate, good skills and a monster chin and power to the table.

    No way Lewis goes undefeated.
     
  14. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    they aren't part of an already stacked career, they are largely replacements as stipulated by Mendoza your pal, which you clearly haven't thought through all the way.

    Which does indeed makes the next bit of that same post of yours all the more interesting in a K.S.D.O.A. kinda manner -
     
  15. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    no, as indicated, he is odds on to not lose, but one loss is not improbable of course.