How Many Of The 15 Below Does GGG Beat?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    How many of these 15 names does Golovkin beat over 12rounds prime for prime?
    Tiger
    Steele
    Hopkins
    Jones Jnr
    Walker
    Ketchel
    Monzon
    Hagler
    Zale
    Robinson
    Greb
    Giardello
    Toney
    Valdez
    LaMotta
    Id say, if you think over half ,he probably makes your all time top ten!
     
  2. BCS8

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    I think over half.

    I'd have my doubts with Jones Jr, Monzon, Hagler, Robinson, Greb and maybe LaMotta.

    Not to say the others could not beat him, but I feel fairly confident Golovkin would win.

    Then again, styles make fights and some of these guys had pretty unique styles. Freddie Steele looks to me at his best to be a very heavy handed, fast and accurate puncher. Hopkins is a spoiler par excellance and might be able to break Golovkin's rythmn.

    On the other hand GGG's technical excellence and jab might prove more effective than expected.

    I'd give my left nut to see a series of fights between Golovkin and these guys.
     
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  3. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Difficult to assess, given that Golovkin didn't meet anyone of these guys' level in his prime (or hasn't, even since his prime).

    I couldn't be confident he'd be likely of victory against any of them. However, I'd be extremely confident in backing the following to beat Golovkin:

    Greb
    Monzon
    Hagler
    Robinson
    Tiger
    Ketchel
    Steele
    Walker
    Hopkins
    Jones Jnr
    LaMotta

    It would be Toney's fight to lose. But, at middleweight he was probably at his most formidable.
    Zale's prime is a mystery, due to the war years. However, my sense is he'd be able to handle Golovkin.
    Prime Giardello would probably prove to be too tough a nut to crack, but there's a chance here for Golovkin.

    Valdez is probably Golovkin's best chance of a scalp, from this list of monsters.
     
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  4. BCS8

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    There was a GGG / Tiger thread a while ago. It seems very obvious to me that Golovkin's jab would cause Tiger no end of problems.
     
  5. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think Canelo does anything better than Toney and Toney just has Soo much better stamina and could(when he felt like it) throw so many more punches than Golovkin, which was why Canelo couldn't beat him(he didn't have the gas tank to throw enough)
    So I struggle to see how GGG beats toney
     
  6. FrankinDallas

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    No Langford, Fitzsimmons, Fullmer, Emile Griffith, McCallum, Charley Burley?

    I think GGG beats Ketchel for sure, maybe Zale, maybe Walker but that's it.
     
  7. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Tomato canovsky beating toney lol
     
  8. JohnThomas1

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    Sticking to the ones we have decent film of i'd only back him over Valdez. Zale would be interesting.
     
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  9. robert ungurean

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    Tiger
    LaMotta
    Hopkins
    Ketchel
    Walker
    Steele 50/50
     
  10. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not sure it would be a huge factor. Tiger always appeared to me to be a patient fighter, tending to sit outside of range and look for openings, before more or less pouncing on his opponents.

    Finding openings against Golovkin isn't difficult.
     
  11. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    No way. There you go underrating one of the best middleweight forces of boxing history. If it weren't for Monzon, you'd all be speaking of Rocky Valdez in the same hushed, respectful tones reserved for ring royalty.
     
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  12. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Both Tiger and Giardello beat GGG.
     
  13. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Valdez was a long way below Monzon. Valdez was great against guys that stood in front of him or came to him but against others not so much. He didn't have anywhere near the versatility of Monzon. It's speculation how he would have went if Monzon never existed.
     
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  14. Mendoza

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