How many of these boxers would you pick Kessler to beat?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by PrideOfWales, Sep 19, 2007.


  1. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    :good
     
  2. *BOX_FAN*

    *BOX_FAN* Well-Known Member Full Member

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    3 - Pavlik, Wright and RJJ.
     
  3. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Actually that's incorrect. 68% think that he would NOT beat all of the above. :good

    If you mean to say which of the 6 slots has the most votes, then that would make some sense.
     
  4. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    You missed the early voting patterns
     
  5. Laydown

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    :rofl :rofl
     
  6. Laydown

    Laydown Member Full Member

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    He's from Mexico
     
  7. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just to make one thing clear to Toopretty, Dekkers and DanePugilist ( btw to radical China_Hand_Joe 2), I have no doubts that both Joe Calzaghe and Mikkel Kessler are at the same A level of Hopkins, BHop, Winky Wright, actually why wouldn't they? The European / Non-European factor is irrelevant in itself ( obviously Toopretty) but Frank Warren may have affected Joe's chances to succeed in the States against Bernard now, for instance - he fought too many times in his home turf so that he wouldn't get tricked by someone who tricked the trickiest in Winky, that's all, otherwise Joe would whirlwind Bernard for 12 rounds in the RJJ's fashion so gifted, fast and experienced (same 20 successful SMW title defenses and undefeated against the likes of Mitchell, Brewer, Lacy and so on) is the Prince of Wales ... Same logic applies to Kessler, the spectacular wins over Beyer and Soliman may not mean a lot if he comes into a situation such as Calzaghe's, he still is too green to fight the best american fighters on american soil, remember what happened to former european mw champ Morrade Hakkar in Philly and he was a good fighter...
     
  8. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No I was there. :deal

    Unless you mean before this even had 10 votes, then I concede, but that isn't exactly a statistically significant result.
     
  9. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    Yeah, you got me there.. lol
     
  10. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What nobody wants to admit is that this fight can be a tossup... If Joe uses his awkward pesky puncher style well, his deceptive hand speed, uses angles to nail and his footwork to get outa there, he wins... If Kessler controls well his sense of distance and imposes the heavier, solid jab, and proves that his combination punching style is much more effective than slap-pitty-pat punchin, Mikkel may even hurt Calzaghe bad... I believe there is too much at stake in this fight, big-fight nerves are required and I know who can show more of that when it happens.
     
  11. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    But Kessler is unproven when it comes to big fight nerves. If he holds it together, who would you pick on the assumption that both boxers bring their best to the party?
     
  12. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, Kessler is unproven but many make the same comment to Calzaghe ( in threads that question his level of opposition) but going straight to your point, if Mikkel holds it together and shows great hunger in front of 60 thousand at the Milennium and Joe brings his best like against Lacy, if Kessler doesn't get back problems or Joe's hands get injured, I'll go with the majority of experts - check out "The Ring" December issue -Calzaghe vs. Kessler What the experts are saying ( pags 38-39) - final tally: Calzaghe 15; Kessler 5 - Joe toughs out a close win aiming for a B-Hop career final bout.
     
  13. MrStayman

    MrStayman Active Member Full Member

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    If Kessler were to fight Pavlik and Taylor one after the other, I think there is an above 50% chance that he would lose once. I might give him as high as 70% odds for each fight, but that means he would still probably lose one of them.

    Dawson also probably gets the edge for the extra weight division.
     
  14. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    Fighting Pavlik and Taylor is mutually exclusive. So if you think there's 70% chance he'd beat each then you're saying there's a 70% chance he'd beat both, one after the other.

    Your math makes no sense with the 50% you give him.
     
  15. EL MATADOR13

    EL MATADOR13 Member Full Member

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    hopkins and pavlik only have a chance everyone else gets beat (roy jr. ,winky, taylor get knocked out).