How many of these statements about Tyson Fury are true?

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  1. Curlew

    Curlew Active Member Full Member

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    Tyson Fury fan here, at least until recently. Anyway:


    Tyson Fury is a very good boxer.

    Tyson Fury is a very good heavyweight.

    Tyson Fury currently has one of the most underwhelming reigns at the weight, given the time he's had the belts.

    Tyson Fury's defense is overrated, as he can be, and has been, put down by boxers with limited skill, or by boxers much smaller than him.

    Tyson Fury's style is reliant on his size and natural strength, as these factors enable him to smother when the going gets tough and he needs time to recover, and also to tire opponents in the clinch from the first round to the last.

    His ability to smother and tie up and tire his opponent has little to do with his actual boxing ability.

    If Tyson Fury was six feet two, he wouldn't be heavyweight champion. In an era of superheavies, his greatest gift is his size.

    A man of his size and skill should be doing everything he can to secure fights against all the other top boxers in the division, because if he beats them all, then he genuinely has to enter the all-time HW discussion. If his heavyweight reign reads old Kiltschko-Wilder-Whyte-Chisora, he'll be irrelevant in future discussions on this topic.

    If he doesn't fight Usyk, and Usyk retires undefeated but not undisputed, then Fury has a 20-cm, corkscrew *****, eats bread thrown by wellwishers in a park and gives Tony Soprano panic attacks.
     
  2. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    All of these statements are false

    Minimize Wlad, Wilder and Usyk all you like, Fury still beat them decisively and in a dominant fashion. Wlad unbeaten in 10 years. Wilder unbeaten with GOAT power. Usyk unbeaten nearer enough GOAT cruiserweight. beat Chisora and Whyte blindfolded at 5% capacity. Won every title and belt there is. undefeated. undeniable. unstoppable.
     
  3. Curlew

    Curlew Active Member Full Member

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  4. Curlew

    Curlew Active Member Full Member

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    Let the fans decide
     
  5. JDub

    JDub Active Member Full Member

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    Fury hasn't fought Usyk let alone beat him.
     
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    willcross Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He beat him psychologically and spiritually.
     
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  7. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich A lot of people have pools Full Member

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    1. True
    2. True
    3. True
    4. True
    5. pass
    6. Not sure what you mean by this
    7. If he was 6'2 from the start of his career then he would've developed a different style. If you made him 6'2 now then I guess yeah he wouldn't be champion but I don't see what that proves. I think criticising boxers for using what has been given to them is weird.
    8. Irrelevant is a bit harsh but this is mostly true.
    9. no comment.
     
  8. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How did he do that exactly?

    I'll get the popcorn.
     
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  9. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Tyson Fury currently has one of the most underwhelming reigns at the weight, given the time he's had the belts."

    I think this is probably nonsense, though in the moment it's frustrating. @Dubblechin was talking about Byrd's 4.5 year IBF reign the other day and it sounded dreadfully boring, as well as very controversial. The Wlad win was huge, the Wilder 2 win was huge, Wilder 3 was a classic war, Whyte was an excellent performance against a mandatory. Chisora 3 was a lucrative cherrypick (which he'd been promising Chisora since 2014) but given the great wins/moments, I don't see it as currently being among "the most underwhelming reigns" in the long history of the sport. But whether you are underwhelmed is subjective, so maybe for you it is.

    "Tyson Fury's defense is overrated, as he can be, and has been, put down by boxers with limited skill, or by boxers much smaller than him."

    When Fury's been on top form this is untrue. Compare how relatively competitive Chisora was with Vitali and Usyk to how he did vs Fury, especially in fight 2. Compare Hammer vs Povetkin and Ortiz with Hammer vs T. Fury. Compare Whyte vs Joshua and Povetkin 1 to Whyte vs Fury. Neither Chisora 2/3, Hammer or Whyte landed ANYTHING of significance to Fury's head. I don't think Whyte even landed a scoring headshot.

    Fury set an all-time defensive record against Wlad, who schooled and battered Byrd x2 and many others, big and small and hit Joshua twice as much, with bigger bombs, in a shorter fight, while being significantly older. Over 43 non-Fury fights Wilder stopped everyone but couldn't stop Fury over three fights at home, despite Fury fighting aggressively in fights 2 and 3. If Fury's defence was overrated he would have been bombed out by now (as have consistently been the predictions going into the fights with Wlad and Wilder in particular), especially given he's fought two of the biggest punchers ever x4 who are both 6'5+ Olympic medallists and long-reigning champions.

    "Tyson Fury's style is reliant on his size and natural strength"

    Of course it is to a large degree but that's true of everyone with those advantages. It's sensible to make use of your attributes.

    "If Tyson Fury was six feet two, he wouldn't be heavyweight champion"

    If Fury were 6'2 he'd be even faster, more agile, better conditioned, which are already some of his best attributes. It's completely hypothetical whether he'd be champion or would have become champion but fighters of Fury's size haven't historically had anything close to his success, meaning his ability is great relative to his size.

    "doing everything he can to secure fights against all the other top boxers in the division"

    To complete his legacy he only needs the Usyk undisputed fight, especially if Wilder KO's Joshua. Perhaps he's checked out mentally after a long and successful career, time will tell.
     
  10. Mr Stagger Lee

    Mr Stagger Lee Active Member Full Member

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    Nonsense
     
  11. Mr Stagger Lee

    Mr Stagger Lee Active Member Full Member

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    Pick up some popcorn for me too.
     
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    JDub Active Member Full Member

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    Sorry my bad. Basically the same as actually fighting him and beating him then.
     
  13. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson Fury's style is reliant on his size and natural strength, as these factors enable him to smother when the going gets tough and he needs time to recover, and also to tire opponents in the clinch from the first round to the last.

    Kronk gym style. Lennox Lewis and Klitschko did the same thing.

    If Tyson Fury was six feet two, he wouldn't be heavyweight champion. In an era of superheavies, his greatest gift is his size.

    If it wasn’t for weight classes everyone else below 200 lbs would be completely irrelevant.
     
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    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury, along with Usyk, are far and away the best heavyweights in the world but that statement seems to have been left out of the options.
     
  15. 40ozoe

    40ozoe Member Full Member

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    There is only one true statement.

    "A certain user of boxingforum24.com who calls himself Curlew is obsessed with a boxer named Tyson Fury, this is an unhealthy obsession and the user should find other things to occupy his mind with."

    Good luck 2 u.