How many of Wilders defenses have good momentum right now?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by UnleashtheFURY, Jul 29, 2017.


Which Wilder defense has a future in the division?

Poll closed Feb 14, 2018.
  1. Molina

    1.7%
  2. Duhaupas

    10.2%
  3. Szpilka

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Arreola

    1.7%
  5. Washington

    1.7%
  6. None of the above

    89.8%
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  1. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Tyson's had no defences, so that's a silly question.

    Of Joshua's three defences Breazeale is the only one considering Wlad's most likely on his way out. Breazaele's on a similar level to Washington, but the difference is that Breazeale is four years younger, and clearly has the heart that Washington lacks, if not the skills. He's also a bigger puncher and appears to take the better punch, which in this division of giants can take him reasonably far.
     
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  2. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    It's easy to destroy that argument however. Molina had already been blasted out twice by lower level guys, Duhaupas had about three losses at the time he fought Wilder and a razor thin decision win over Manuel Charr that could have gone either way, Szpilka had already been KOed by Jennings the year before and had been through several wars with Mike Mollo, Arreola was a punchbag in his last four fights, and Washington took only a round's worth of punishment before succumbing. Plus Duhaupas and Molina ended up notching up two semi-decent wins between them after the Wilder losses so clearly weren't that badly ruined.

    The only fighter they could say was legitimately ruined by Wilder is Stiverne, but you could easily say that age and inactivity did that for him as much as Wilder's fists.
     
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  3. Faceplant

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    Dustin Nichols almost always has incredible momentum.
     
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  4. Max Thunder

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    The fight should have been stopped when Nichols demonstrated the heaviest check jab in history and the results were evidently seen on the ropes and on their knees. His career went all downhill after that robbery disappointment.
     
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  5. It's Ovah

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    Momentum = mass x velocity x buffet menu
     
  6. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    The truth is Wilder could have fought Stiverne already by now, he was announced mandatory back in Feb, this fight could have happened in June or July. Instead he's trying to trick us into 'oh but but Stiverne is blocking my fights doe!'
    Wilder could be looking at Ortiz fight for Nov right now, his management is as pathetic as his resume.
     
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  7. It's Ovah

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    True. I'm not sure what the hold up is, especially since Wilder loves to keep busy and isn't nursing any injuries to my knowledge.

    Get this worthless mandatory out the way one way or another.
     
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  8. It's Ovah

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    The Ortiz fight looks like another load of hot air from Wilder's team anyway. He'll likely fight Stiverne or get another last minute no-hoper after that fight falls through for whatever idiotic reason. I'm guessing Breazeale or someone of that calibre.
     
  9. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wlad is not "on the rise," nor does he "have good momentum right now" -- as you noted, he's on the way out.

    Fury didn't have a title reign. He won a punch-every-two-minutes snoozefest two years ago and has done nothing since but fail/skip drug tests, drink and drug himself into oblivion and consume an enormous amount of hedgehogs and boar entrails ... enough to balloon up to 400 pounds or so.
     
  10. It's Ovah

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    That's great. It has no relevance to Wilder's situation though.
     
  11. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Incorrect. He gained momentum and respect in a close and competitive fighter over what most consider to be the future of the division, after 15 months or so out and a bad loss to Fury he definitely gained some momentum despite the defeat... Many anticipated that he would get blown out in a couple of rounds. So... He has another chance at winning most of the belts back and being the #1 in the division again(along with a multi-million dollar payday). There's more momentum than any Wilder defense... Breazeale also has an upset victory over Ugonoh in what was a great fight. So that's two Joshua defenses with more life than any Wilder opponent... Let's go back a little further even, before Joshua won a title... Remember he beat Whyte and I think it's safe to say that a 4 fight win streak which includes a win over top 15-20 HW in Chisora is better than anyone on Wilders entire resume is doing. So that's 3 opponents(2 who are defenses) who have a better than Widlers victims.
     
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  12. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilders obsession of fighting sub par opponents or people pointing it out?
     
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  14. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    It's a tactic of fanboys to call people "obsessed" for speaking unflattering truth about fighters they like.

    Another favorite of mine is.... "stop following me around and stalking my posts." :lol:

    These more often than not are words of a defeated man... Especially when used in unison.
     
  15. Saintpat

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    I was responding to the thread title. It refers to title defenses, not overall opponents.

    And Duhaupas and Molina both got meaningful wins after Wilder beat them so it's a snapshot in time. Breazeale gets knocked out next time out and he's in the same group as the others -- just as right now he's in the same standing as Molina and Duhaupas were after losing to Wilder and then picking up their own upset wins.

    Wlad has no momentum. He's lost two fights in a row. He signed a contract that guaranteed a rematch -- so he'd get the chance to win the belts if he had been sparked out in 30 seconds -- and hasn't won a fight since April of 2015.