How many of Wilders defenses have good momentum right now?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by UnleashtheFURY, Jul 29, 2017.


Which Wilder defense has a future in the division?

Poll closed Feb 14, 2018.
  1. Molina

    1.7%
  2. Duhaupas

    10.2%
  3. Szpilka

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Arreola

    1.7%
  5. Washington

    1.7%
  6. None of the above

    89.8%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, by comparison Wilder's title reign has been far and away above Fury's. Because Fury didn't have one and self-destructed after one exceedingly boring win over an old man.
     
  2. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The true meaning behind this thread is , are Wilder's 5 voluntary opponents any good.
    The short answer is no. wilder's team is selling junk.

    Still no Ortiz, no Povetkin, no Pulev, no Wlad (lol at the thought of him EVER facing him), no Joshua, no Parker.

    Everyone he does fight gets defeated far worse against the next live opponent they face. Those are the facts.

    Wilder pushing 32 years of age and 40 professional fights has one top 10 opponent on his resume. Not once in 5 voluntaries did he or his team choose even a remotely worth opponent.
    Molina shameful selection
    Duhaupas a guy from France nobody ever heard of
    Szpilka a crude limited blown up cruiser
    Arreola shameful selection that Haymon was hellbent on getting into the ring
    Washington look what Miller did
     
  3. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Then why make the comparison at all expect to steer attention away from the topic of discussion?

    If you want to defend Wilder then address the topic directly.
     
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  4. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Comparison is one way to address the topic.

    If, for instance, we're talking about Joe Louis' reign, it's useful to see how it stacks up against those of other champions.

    To say "How many of Wilder's defenses have good forward momentum" is useless in a vacuum. If we compare that to AJ -- who isn't being criticized (even when he fought a Molina whom Wilder had already knocked out he didn't get half the shade for it) -- or Fury (who didn't even make one successful defense as he unraveled and disgraced himself), we see that there's not much point in picking on Wilder's defenses in this manner as neither of those other two (not to mention Parker, who fought his own sparring partner -- from the same camp -- in a fight that never should have been sanctioned for any title) as there's no overall point to be made as if Wilder's title defense opponents and those of the other champions are on some kind of upward trajectory.

    If you just want to make another "I hate Wilder" thread, be honest about it instead of cooking up some ridiculous criteria that doesn't stand examination when compared to the other heavyweight champs.
     
  5. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    The criteria does stand up.

    If you want to make a crybaby thread about how Wilder is being picked on and you don't like it because your a biased fanboy of his, why not just say so?
     
  6. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    I just came out the pub and I nearly battered this azzhole inside the joint. I came away but I'm simmering. Help me out.
     
  7. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    We've debated this topic to death. I've put you in your place each time. There's no need to repeat ourselves 5 million times in the same debate. It's not that I'm "a defeated man", it's just that I don't want to get into the same debate a million times. How many more threads and criticizing posts about Wilder are you going to make in 2017?
     
  8. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    How many times are you going to deny the truth of your BUTTHURT in 2017 in regards to Wilder while telling yourself you put others in their place?

    How many is too many ellerbe?
     
  9. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    UTF is a guy that blamed Wilder for the Pedvetkin debacle lmao.
     
  10. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    You've never put anyone in their place on here lol..... Taking someone in circles and refusing to accept reality does not constitute as "putting someone in their place". does constructive criticism about Wilder bother you so much? Don't want to get in the same debate a million times? I agreed to that, yet you're pursuing it here... After asking me to leave you alone about it. :lol:
     
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  11. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    I don't blame Wilder for that, instead I consider him lucky that he didn't fight Sasha. He shouldn't get a gold star simply because Pov screwed up.

    However, that's just 1 fight of nearly 40, let's keep that in perspective.

    Now, you answer my question, how long are you going to keep secretly concealing your butthurt over Wilders career thus far while taking it out on those of us who simply call out Wilder for not yet fighting the best in the division?
     
  12. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm not pursuing a debate related to Wilder and his resume. I'm just curious to know when you're going to get over your obsession with Wilder. Does Wilder get the hype that little g and lomachenko get? No. Do Wilder fanboys make threads about him being the greatest HW or about how good he is everyday? No. The best thing you can do if you dislike Wilder is to stop making threads and posting about him. I guess as a Wilder fan I should thank you for keeping him relevant.
     
  13. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Ellerbe is still working the kinks of his hypocrite problem out of his system.

    To be fair he is way better than he used to be after constant forum defeats and brow beatings.
     
  14. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm actually exactly the same :risas3:. Just because I don't bully you anymore doesn't mean I've changed on this forum as a whole.
     
  15. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Ellerbe is full of ****. He thinks that situation absolves Wilder of 2 1/2 years of **** poor competition. That's been the extent of it.. Often times when I criticize Wilder he'll bring up Povetkin failing those tests, which wasn't Wilders fault but it doesn't excuse his other defenses. In Ellerbes head it does.
     
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