How Many People Go Undefeated Through Jeffries's Era?

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  1. Mendoza

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    I thought they were already! Might as well throw out Jorge Paez, now that guy could clown.
     
  2. mcvey

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    Corbett has less pro fights than Jeffries both times they met.
    For the first Ruhlin fight Jeffries had engaged in 5 pro fights,Ruhlin 8.
    Finnegan has a listed record of 4-2-4 when he fought Jeffries.
    As usual you are counting exhibitions of Corbett as actual fights,to bolster Corbett's very underwhelming record.
    You have been corrected on this multiple times.
    There have been several books written on Corbett none have unearthed more pro fights.
    Nor in conversation with Tommy Loughran did Corbett claim more.
    Jeffries was boxing nightly under the guidance of
    De Wit Van Court and Billy Gallagher.
    Pollack's book on Jeffries lists his exhibitions and even a school yard fight!
    Jeffries had the benefit of daily sparring with Corbett the reigning champion when he turned pro.
    I'm once again correcting your assertions,assertions that you know to be false.Finnegan was a nobody whom Ruhlin had ko'd in his previous fight.
    Here is a report of the Finnegan v Ruhlin fight.

    Finnegan of Pittsburgh was on his back ten seconds after the first bell. He beat the count and survived the round, but took a beating in the second round, only saved by the bell. In the third round, two hard lefts knocked him through the ropes. He crawled back in to beat the count again, but his seconds had to carry him to his corner. Seconds into the 4th round Ruhlin dropped him again, and inside the next minute and a half he dumped "The Pittsburg Stogie" on the canvas four more times. As the police moved to stop the fight, Richard McCormick, Finnegan's manager, ran into the ring and carried his man to his corner."
    He entered the ring against Jeffries terrified and cried after being despatched in again in the opening round .Total farce!
    Finnegan was a Jeffries sparring partner at the time.
    What was he doing getting a world's title fight?

    Here is the report of the fight from the San Francisco Call April 7th1900.

    • Finnegan, referred to by one newspaper as "The Human Punching Bag," was one of Jeffries' sparring partners at the time.
    • The San Francisco Call reported the following on April 7, 1900:
    Champion James J. Jeffries knocked out John Finnegan of Pittsburg to-night before the Cadillac Athletic Club in fifty-five seconds. Finnegan landed the first blow as they came to the center of the ring, and Jeffries then put his left on the Pittsburgh man's jaw, and he went to the floor. Finnegan came up in a few seconds only to be sent to the floor again with a blow in the same place. He stayed down longer this time, and when he again arose he was in visible distress. He had hardly assumed a fighting position before the champion put his left in the pit of his stomach, and Finnegan went down completely out. Referee Siler counted the seconds off, and when he stepped back it was seen that Finnegan was crying. He staggered to his feet and reeled against the ropes, and his seconds rushed into the ring and carried him to his corner. It was several minutes before he recovered sufficiently to leave the ring. Jeffries said he weighed 220, but he looked thirty pounds heavier. Finnegan weighed but 180 and looked like a boy beside the champion.
    Estimated weights.Jeffries 240lbs Finnegan 180lbs.
    Please do not attempt to justify Jeffries defending his title against Finnegan,it is excrutiating!
     
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  3. mcvey

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    Jim Corbett.
    4th fight Choynski
    5th fight Choynski
    9th fight Kilrain
    10th fight McCaffrey
    11th fight Jackson
    13th fight Sullivan