We'll probably never know for sure. Arum won't releas official numbers. Any number that does come out will either be Arum giving a false number, or someone else giving an estimate. I really wish this fight were on regular HBO. I'm going to a friend's surprise birthday party in Atlantic City that night. If it were on regular HBO I could DVR it. Now I'll have to just stay away from boxing sites for a week and catch the replay.
On what fights did he give false #'s? Didn't hear about that. Don't confuse giving a rough estimate with outright lying though.
I don't see the PPV #s being as big as they could/should be. There are innumerable reasons why. Poor economy, lack of marketing, state of the sport, etc; BUT the #1 reason is the relative anonymity of the combatants. I know who they are, you know who they are, but does Joe Public know enough to want to buy this fight? Very few people outside the sport know who Miguel Cotto is and NOBODY, N-O-B-O-D-Y! knows who Antonio Margarito is let alone how lively an opponent he may be. It generally takes TWO identifiable fighters to sell a PPV, unless one of them is named Oscar.
Margarito and Manuel Gomez was a ppv fight.... it did crappy #'s... I think Cotto/Margarito could do good numbers... 300k sounds good... above 300k...
300k. Neither fighter is a house name yet. But if the fight is exciting and word of mouth gets to the masses. Then, expect the winner to begin doing 300k+ ppvs from now on.
That's my pick, well maybe 250 or 300k. Margarita is not a popular fighter. Cotto is just starting to get noticed.
300,000 is a solid number for this fight. Its one of the best fights in boxing but theyre not the two biggest draws.
Lance, you can get straight up numbers from just about every non Top Rank ppv. Now Top Rank claims they don't release ppv numbers. Despite this, Arum is always tossing out numbers. Why toss out numbers if you don't plan on releasing the real numbers? Also, many times, there are conflicting numbers regarding Top Rank ppv's. If there is a discrepency, the number that Top Rank throws out is almost always higher than what other outlets report. Now can I prove that Arum lies about ppv numbers? Of course I can't. This forum revolves around posters sharing their opinions on boxing related issues. In my opinion, given all the circumstances, I believe Arum lies about how well his companies ppvs do.
I doubt this fight does 500k. However, if the fight could simply jump from 500k to 1mill with "proper promotion", then somebody needs to be fired. Because that's a huge difference in terms of revenue generated.
"Top Rank promoter Bob Arum told me the other day the Manny Pacquiao-David Diaz lightweight title bout did between 225,000 and 250,000 buys on HBO PPV. To put it nicely, Arum is ever the optimist. I asked industry folks who are far less prone to exaggeration than Arum and was told that the fight will be lucky to crack 200,000. Lucky. It just goes to show you that no matter how great Pacquiao is, without a known foil he can't do serious business on his own." This is straight out of Respected Columnist Dan Rafael's mouth.