How many prime fighters has Lennox lewis beaten?

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    How'd the rematches go and when were they made and why the different lengths ?

    And he ducked who ?

    And he fought Holyfield and Tyson at the time why exactly ?

    The people who write without reading never cease to amuse me ..
     
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    The Tyson and Holyfield fights should have happed 4-5 years sooner. Lewis was wise to pick a time when he was still in his prime and they were not. Of course Lewis beat and mentally wreaked McCall and an over rated Rhaman, the point being he was Ko'd early by both men too.No fights with Ike either but I'll give that one a pass.
     
  3. Unforgiven

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    I don't think Lewis ducked or delayed any meaningful fight.
    But the narrative that he was some sort of victim at the hands of the boxing establishment gets a bit tiresome.
    He was well promoted, well represented, much in demand and invested in.
     
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    You may be tired of it but that does not revise history. For at least the first half of his career he was completely handled by the Alphabets and the promoters .. no one wanted to fight him and his lack of charisma as some sort of chess playing softie out of the ring didn't help ..
     
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    The WBC ranked him high and put him in the eliminator with Ruddock, which they retrospectively used to award him the belt when Bowe declined to meet him. That's more than fair, surely.
    It was Bowe and his manager who were bucking the establishment, if anyone,( not that I am condoning that) .
    The WBC were run by Jose Sulaiman who was in an unholy alliance with Don King. Hence, guys like a retreaded Tony Tucker, and Oliver McCall being elevated to #1 positions in their crooked rankings.
    The vast majority of Lewis's fights in 1992-'97 were promoted by either Main Events/Duvas or by Don King, the established leading American promoters of heavyweights. Lewis was signed to Main Events as early as 1990 (before he'd even fought anyone of note) and he was thrust into high rankings (the "crooked rankings") and big showcase fights.
    HBO broadcasters were big boosters of Lewis too, let's be honest.
     
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  6. he grant

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    Zzzzzzz
     
  7. Unforgiven

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    Fair enough, but I took the time to explain myself and you respond with that kind of childish dismissiveness.
    I've noticed in this thread you often don't like facts. You often refuse to engage with facts or details, and just throw out platitudes. I'm not saying you need to agree with me, but your mocking tone and lack of substance is telling.
     
  8. Cojimar 1946

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    One of the arguments used in favor of Lewis is the era he fought in though but if he didn't face the best versions of the fighters of that era doesn't that undermine that argument.

    I'm not sure his best wins are really better than Usyk's or Wladimir Klitschko's. Who did he beat better than a prime Povetkin or a prime Anthony Joshua? Or for that matter a prime Wilder?
     
  9. douglas1

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    Holyfield shot
    Tyson shot
    Mercer robbery
    Briggs heavily stacked
     
  10. he grant

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    That's an Unforgiven question to answer .. ;P
     
  11. he grant

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    and the alts have re-entered the thread .. :)
     
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    And Vitaly K, he lost if not for that cut down on points and was tried. I don't think Mercer was a robbery
     
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    Criticism for the sake of criticising. Why did Holyfield and Tyson not fight him earlier? Beating Lewis at his best would have significantly boosted both resumes. Do some hard yards.

    King paid Lewis $4mil to step aside and let Tyson grab Seldon's title with the promise Lewis would be his next fight. Didn't happen.

    Lewis' loss to McCall and Holyfield's two losses to Bowe and his loss to Moorer derailed them for years. Neither really avoided the other.

    As for Mercer being included in that lot WITAF are you talking about? :lol:

    So much wrong with that.
     
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  14. JohnThomas1

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    :lol:
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    Do you think Lewis wasn't peak in 1999?
     
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