How many rounds will Hopkins win against Calzaghe?

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  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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  2. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    2 at best.

    Wouldn't be surprised he wins none and If Joe stops him.

    People bull**** about Hopkins being some timing master or counter puncher but he's looked **** against guys not In Joe's level and where was this masterful **** against Jermain Taylor?
     
  3. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Just what I was gonna write...
     
  4. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Option 1 should have been: 2 or less...please vote for that
     
  5. Sebastien

    Sebastien Active Member Full Member

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    Nah man, Bernard is a wizard. Sure he has slowed down, but he's become technically better and better. Bernard is the pure fighter, he is a master.

    You'll never see a guy with better ring generalship, period. He DICTATES the pace, he DICTATES the parameters within which the fight will take place. Bernard gets you to fight his fight.

    Even the so called losses to Taylor, he clearly landed the better punches. Hell the most Taylor could land was a couple of jabs.
     
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    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  7. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    How is he possibly going to put up that competitive of a fight at this point against a guy who's still reasonably fresh in ability?
     
  8. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    I am so-so smart, because this is what I did in the end.:lol:
     
  9. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You are one of 3 or 4 posters I won't even discuss this match with:yep.....You know why. No matter what anyone says, you will not argue the point in an objective manner.
     
  10. Max Molyneux

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    You return!:D
     
  11. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I will argue it in an objective manner.

    Hopkins struggled with Winky Wright, in bad form mind you, was tired and was being landed on and couldn't put up much of his best, save for enough to win rounds. Uninspiring performance against a walking target due to legs.

    Now, where am I being biased there? That's just what I saw.

    Go back to the Taylor fights, different stance, as he's a southpaw, but horrific defence, had the speed, youth and workrate to give Hopkins enough respect for him to let rounds slip by.

    Hopkins starts extremely slow, even losing 2 rounds early to Howard Eastman because he basically did absolutely nothing.

    Calzaghe's jab is better than Taylor's and Wright's and much more constant, his timing is not better than Wright's, but he moves better and he's a lot faster, his workrate also more intense and his lateral movement and punching also.

    Being that Hopkins couldn't fire off on Taylor enough to stop him from coming at him, how's he going to do it against the stronger chinned Calzaghe?

    Lastly, Calzaghe's odd angle punching is something Hopkins has never seen and Calzaghe will land on him well, IMO.

    Calzaghe TKO 8, worn out Hopkins, even if Hops lands his best right's, they just aren't strong enough for Calzaghe to stop throwing and Hopkins hasn't fought a good body puncher in forever.

    Wipe out, even prime for prime Calzaghe's in and out movement would be difficult for Hopkins EVEN if he did beat Calzaghe in a competitive bout, now it's overkill.

    I'm not being un-objective, just calling it as I see it mate....
     
  12. JonOli

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  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    You seriously don't think that Hopkins will win a single round?

    EDIT: Never mind, it seems someone else already asked.

    I think he will win not less than 3. He has a chance to win a decision.
     
  14. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Whatever you say. If the fight goes out like I;m saying, does it raise Joe's positioning in your opinion?
     
  15. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Calzaghe leaves himself wide open down the middle. His workrate while high, is lacking power and won't scare or hurt Hopkins. Hopkins is going to land some very crisp and clean shots on Calzaghe which will win him rounds. Yes he has good movement and comes from angles. Nothing Hopkins hasn't seen before.

    Point is, how you see it comes from a perspective that generates less objectivity than someone who could care less about the outcome. You underrate Taylor and therefore underrate what he was able to do against Hopkins. And Hopkins has adapted his style yet again to deal with guys who have a higher workrate than he does. He showed that against Tarver and Wright. You love Calzaghe, so you overestimate what he has done and the caliber of fighter he has done it too. Hopkins is skilled enough to get on the inside and do some things.

    He has enough to win 4 rounds.