How Many Times As David Haye Been Floored So Far??

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  1. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    i counted 3 so far..

    it does not bode well for the new saviour of the HW division.
     
  2. El Matador

    El Matador Your Boxing Authority Full Member

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    Isn't he fighting Monte Barrett?

    Hope Barrett can duplicate the Fields fight with this Haye character.
     
  3. Canadianfan

    Canadianfan Active Member Full Member

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    David Haye is not going to save the Heavyweight Division. I don't know if he loses to Monte, but he is not a saviour. He's just marketable, unlike the rest of the HW's. I know that statement was meant to be sarcastic, just so many people believe it.
     
  4. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Not as many times as he's gonna be by HWs. :lol:

    Wouldn't be surprised to see Barrett knock him out, frankly.
     
  5. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    your sarcasm assumption was correct!

    :good
     
  6. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    mock was the congo guy in leopard skin right?

    :lol:
     
  7. myau1

    myau1 Active Member Full Member

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    When asking this question we should also ask how many times the main man in the division, Wladimir has been floored and knocked out. I count three knockouts and several more knockdowns by opponents who where...well not the greatest out there. Haye's as vulnerable as any other heavyweight. I don't care how good you are when a 200+ man hits you flush you're going down regardless of your chin. Haye might be the "savior" of the division and he might not. Only time will tell but as many people continue to bash him or critique him so heavily they should be as critical with all other heavyweights too. Personally I think Haye's got a great chance at becoming champion. I do think however Vitali will give him a good run for his money but I'm looking forward to Haye's fights!

    If he beats Barret what are the Haye haters going to say? Right now they say Monte may knock him out but if he knocks Monte out the same people will say, "Monte's old", Haye got a lucky punch in, or wait till he fights a quality heavyweight. If he becomes champion it'll be "well he's the champion of a weak division" Even if he delivers he'll never be good enough for some people.
     
  8. Boxing Gloves

    Boxing Gloves Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The haye bashing is sub par, i expected better, enjoy trashing Haye while you can, because Monte will be unconcious come saturday night.
     
  9. Canadianfan

    Canadianfan Active Member Full Member

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    What do you expect Haye to do? The man isn't going to turn the Heavy Weight division upside down. I hope he beats Monte, but seriously what does that prove? The point is people are going to be seriously disappointed when he fights the champs.
     
  10. dragosuhail

    dragosuhail Active Member Full Member

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    i'm a big fan of the klitschko's who also actually is a big fan of haye too!
    of course i prefer either klitschko to win verses haye, but i really enjoy watching haye fight so i dont have anything bad to say about him, aside from the annoying trash talk haye gets up to. a little bit is okay but after a while it gets tiring.

    also a fight between wladimir and haye will be VERY interesting in the early rounds, due to haye's bombs away style at times, so i'm looking forward to that.

    i just hope haye gets past monte because a fully focused monte is definately no slouch, and his record and performances against top opposition is quite deciving.

    monte survived 7 rounds against wladimir when wladimir was more offensive-minded. he's tough in other words. he also stunned valuev in the first round and really tried to overwhelm a giant which is not really a good gameplan but he got to the 11th round. he was also really lazy and underperformed against rahman so really he's a solid sometimes dangerous contender.

    fingers crossed haye gets past monte, because i want to see him do well in the heavies... as long as he loses to the klitschkos that is :D
     
  11. don owens

    don owens Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haye is a big mothed punk. he will make a big payday against Klitschko, either one. and he will need his insurance for the coma and hospital bills that will follow.
     
  12. don owens

    don owens Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    sorry for spelling mouthed wrong.
     
  13. Phil Austin

    Phil Austin Keep on Kronkin on! Full Member

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    Thompson only dropped Haye once, not twice
     
  14. dragosuhail

    dragosuhail Active Member Full Member

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    oh and to answer the thread properly, yeah haye has been down a few times.

    even though he has been ko'ed 2 times less than wladimir, and knocked down less, that isn't really a sign that he has a better chin than wladimir.

    remember, a handful of those wladimir knockdowns were either flash knockdown types while overbalanced (devarryl williams), simply tripping over his opponent (some early guy he fought he literally fell over the guys hip like a soccer trip lol), a couple genuine knock downs, (3 verses sanders, but the last one was more panic which made him fall down as no punches actually hit him). exhustion (ross puritty, brewster). hell, even the 1 legit knockdown verses sam peter was more him leaning so far back as he moved straight back was more a balance issue.

    his balance has gotten a lot better under steward due to more sparring and leg/balance workouts since he is so damn top heavy.

    when you look at haye's knock downs they were not really from balance issues but rather being hurt bad. wladimir's worst knockdowns by sanders made him sluggish and frozen like a deer in the headlights, but haye's knockout lost was more troubling. haye got that bad reaction where a fighter's legs kind of spasm and he also got the wobbly eyes rolling around type look going.

    basically haye handled his worst knockdowns worst than wladimir. also take into account that haye was being hit by guys 40 pounds lighter and also slower than sanders, and you can see why it is going to be a potential issue in the heavies.

    i know he reckons that the extra weight will help him absorb shots, but then again the punches he will recieve will be more dangerous so it kind of cancels out any gains. but the reality is, haye's worst knockdowns looked like the beginnings of the zab judah or even maccerinelli type jelly dance. wladimir at no time had that kind of look. that combined with his new maturity and comfort in the ring against roughness, makes me think wladimir might take 1 or 2 hard shots but handle them well, while haye will take 1 or 2 hard shots, and fall all over the ring has his legs refuse to work properly.
     
  15. Holmesy

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    Dragosuhail - you sounded very transparent in that last post. You analysed Klitschko's knockdowns in detail and then just Haye was always hurt. At least extend the same analysis to Haye.

    He was only knocked down by Thompson once, as Phil Austin said. The main reason for the stoppage was extreme fatigue; an inexperienced Haye tried to blow Thompson away. After pounding him around the ring and knocking him down in the first couple of rounds, Haye was completely gassed - he clearly didn't know enough about the CAT. Make no mistake, though - this was a cardiovascular / conditioning problem. Haye won't be making that mistake again.

    GeerGrove says Haye was knocked down by Mormeck 4-5 times. What a joker - he hasn't even seen the fight. Haye was knocked down once in that fight. It looked worse than it was at first - he wasn't jelly-legged, his feet slipped on the hoardings, although it was a genuine knockdown. Don't forget this was a weight-drained Haye.

    Haye may or may not become HW champion - he clearly has his faults.
    But there is a hell of a lot of bull**** talked on these threads.