How many times did Haye flop?

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  1. Big Red

    Big Red Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I did not see Wlad do anything that I don't see all the time in boxing. There was hardly any contact and Haye was falling over. Like I said I think it was smart of Haye to avoid fighting against Wlads strength and weight. But I would of liked to have seen him do it more skillfully then just floping on the floor.
     
  2. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Too bad no one told Haye he's allowed to punch his way out of those situations, and that being close to Wlad was the perfect opportunity to land some body punches that may have added up later -- instead of practicing his parachuting skills and bailing out.
     
  3. gobblock

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    David Haye trained in Aikido under Master Steven Seagal for this fight in order to better fall to the canvas following the slightest suggestion of a push from his opponent. This will aid David in his B action flick career.
     
  4. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly. There's no possible way to defend this, and no way you can blame Wlad for any of it. It was the ***** strategy of all time. (Now we know why the Princess grew that bushy beard. It wasn't to soften Wlad's punches, it was to keep his chin from getting scraped each time he face-dove into the canvas.)

    Haye is a disgrace.
     
  5. gobblock

    gobblock Boxing Addict banned

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    Forgot about that... Haye landed several rabbit punches, but I guess flopping to the ground and playing the ref for a fool really was Booth's remedy for holding.
     
  6. Mr. HU

    Mr. HU KP vs BHop anniversary Full Member

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    Blitchko only hit Haye with 5 meaningful punches in 12 rounds!! Get a grip on yourself!!!!
     
  7. gobblock

    gobblock Boxing Addict banned

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    :|:|:|

    CompuBox Total Punch Stats:



    Klitschko 134/509 for 26 percent



    Haye 72/290 for 25 percent


    :|:|:|
     
  8. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks, Gobblock. You beat me to it!
     
  9. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    Yes because leaning a 242lb fully grown mans frame onto another guys back is a perfectly legal move, i mean grabbing the head and pushing that down is pretty illegal in boxing, but doing that and then leaning on the guys as well is taking it to new extremes. i didnt like Haye falling to the floor but i sure as hell didnt like Wlads clinching, the ref was too weak and should have put his foot down.
     
  10. Big Red

    Big Red Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There was not much holding in the fight but there would have been more if Haye did not use the falling to the floor tactic. I don't think the ref should have deducted a point from Wladimir for putting Haye down on the floor. I did not see enough force for Haye to be sent to the ground,He was flopping.
     
  11. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    I agree with some of that, Haye's gameplan was clearly to try and stop Wlad leaning on him by any means possible, it would be stupid of him to lift Wlad off him everytime this occured, especially with Haye's "history" with back problems, it is also clear as daylight that Wlad was still trying to lean on Haye despite the fact Haye was going down the majority of the time, Wlad even does it in the final round. If the ref had stamped down on Wlad's clinching early in the fight we would not have seen Haye falling to the ground as often.:good
     
  12. am0kgonzo

    am0kgonzo Active Member Full Member

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    Haye went down plenty with Wlad barely touching him.
     
  13. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    That was a re-active process as opposed to pro-active process though, he wouldnt be doing it if Wlad wasnt attempting to lean on him, he knew it was coming and went down, he was in the wrong to do that though, he should have given the ref an earbashing or something else, it looked pretty stupid after a while.:good
     
  14. Big Red

    Big Red Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My problem was always the point deduction by the ref. Both point deductions were wrong although maybe the second could be looked at as a make up call.

    I think it is a good idea to avoid fighting a bigger mans weight and strength. So I don't blame Haye for not resisting Wlads weight. Falling on the floor does little to take advantage of Wlad being off balance though.

    I would like to see a lot less holding in the sport but I don't think I have ever seen a point deduction for it. Holding and leaning on boxers is a part of most boxing matches.
     
  15. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    Ain't no floppin' us now.