His record shows five losses, but how many fights do you believe he actually lost? First off we have the so called KO/TKO losses to Torrecampo and Singsurat: Everyone knows that Pacquiao was severely malnourished and still very green when he fought these guys. Torrecampo was a nobody who wound up with a pathetic record of 15-8 with 6 draws and only a 27% knockout ratio. No way that bum knocks out even the worst version of Manny Pac in legit fashion. If you watch the fight in slow mo, it's clear as day that the punch that sent Manny to the canvas landed square on his dick and balls. He should have been helped to his feet and given as much time as he needed to recover after such a blatant intentional foul, but instead he was counted out by the incompetent and likely corrupt referee. Against Singsurat he was again hit low, but still managed to be up at what would have been the count of three had the ref not been counting so fast. Again, he should have been given time to recover after making it to his feet to beat what was probably the quickest ten count in boxing history, but the bull**** referee instead decided to wave the fight off and award Singsurat with an undeserved TKO victory over the greatest boxer of all time. Next up we have the "loss" to Morales: First of all, Pac was forced to undergo a blood test on the day of the fight which severely weakened him, and secondly he unknowingly signed a contract stipulating that he had to wear the super soft Winning brand gloves. Now anybody who has ever worn these pillows on their hands knows that a prime Mike Tyson couldn't even break a potato chip if he was wearing them. Morales knew this, which is why he insisted that a hidden clause in the contract required Pac to wear them. Couple that with the blood test that drained all of Pac's energy and you have Pac at only about 10% of his normal self. Not a legit victory for Morales IMO. Moving on to the Bradley fight: Pac showed up super unmotivated for this fight and Bradley did nothing but run like a chicken for 12 rounds. In fact, he ran so much that he sprained his ankle trying to avoid Pac, but Bob Arum paid the judges to award him the victory anyway with hopes that he would become the next big PPV star with an undeserved victory over the GOAT on his resume. Bob's plan backfired, however, as everyone knew he and Bradley had betrayed Pacquiao and most responded appropriately by not paying to see Bradley fight Marquez. Lastly, the fourth fight with JMM: Again, Pac showed up totally unmotivated and unprepared for this fight as he had been busy with his congressional responsibilities, bible study, etc. Marquez, on the other hand, showed up roided out of his mind on the latest undetectable **** from Memo Heredia and looking like a Mexican Ronnie Coleman. Still, Pac was giving him the beating of his life and looked well on his way to killing JMM in the ring before the infamous lucky punch landed... And not only was that punch as lucky as they come, but it was also illegal. JMM intentionally timed Pac's lead foot coming in and tripped him, and then as Pac was already falling down and totally defenseless, JMM illegally punched him in the chin with his steroid enhanced right hand. The fight should have been declared a DQ win for Pac, but again the corrupt officials decided to give the P4P king yet another undeserved loss on his record. In conclusion I don't believe the greatest boxer in the history of the sport and real P4P king, Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao, has ever truly lost a fight in the ring, and if he ever does it will be because he's completely shot or he was robbed. There's simply no other way. :bart
5 like his record says. The 2 KO losses early in his career, the loss to Morales, Pac vs Marquez 3, and Pac vs Marquez 4.
Agreed. However, Juan Marquez has never lost. He was robbed 6 times and he was cheated on the scales and came up two weight divisions against Mayweather. Marquez is an undefeated retired boxer.
severely starved vs. campo and sing. blood drained vs. morales. roided vs. marquez. and corrupt judges vs. bradley. pac has a good case for being undefeated, good thread.
in my book.....NOTHING wrong with loosing, as long as you give it all, and leave the fans wanting to see you again......Gatti was a prime example of that... so was mickey ward, although he was just another gatekeeper, he proved in the gatti fights that he wanted it, he put his heart into it and gave the fans what they wanted, in turn the fans wanted to see him again...so by giving it his all, win or loose, in the end, the fans win, and the fighter in turns wins by gaining recognition, respect, and big paychecks...
Yes. Marquez is an undefeated fighter. He was robbed in all of his losses. If he never fights again after getting robbed against Bradley, he should be considered to have an undefeated record.