How Many Truly World Class Heavies Has The UK Produced?

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  1. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Depends what you mean by that.

    Before the current era(2015 onwards) Phil Scott, Farr, Cooper, Bugner, Bruno, Lennox, Akinwande and Haye are the 8 clearest cut elites.

    The next rung to get some sort of title chance would be Fitz, Gunner Moir, Iron Hague, Wells, Joe Beckett, Woodcock, Cockell, London, Dunn, Danny Williams, Skelton, Herbie Hide, Julius Francis and Audley Harrison.

    These last 10 years have blown the previous 110 out of the water. You've got Dubois, Tyson Fury, AJ, Itauma, Okolie, Whyte, Joyce, Chisora, Wardley and Hughie Fury.
     
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  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    I don't consider,
    Scott
    Moir
    Hague
    Wells
    Woodcock
    London
    Beckett
    Dunn
    Williams
    Skelton
    Francis
    Harrison
    Cockell
    H Fury
    To have been world class or elite,some were not even Euro class imo.
     
  3. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was a chronological list.

    Skelton is the latest bloomer in boxing history and Phil Scott and Iron Hague were world class. Hughie Fury is one of the dozens of fighters frozen out in this era it's hard to tell what exactly he was or wasn't.
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    What did Hague achieve to consider him world class?
     
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  5. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie

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    a lot of people might not think Tex Cobb was world classed, nor George Chuvalo, hell even Chuvalo joked I didn't have too much trouble with the 5 - 10 guys, it was the top 4 I couldn't get by...

    World Classed fighters are plentiful, the TOP Elite are the rare ones... many of those UK guys are World Classed, of course they were and consistently found themselves there by the Boxing Trade Papers, Press, Fighters, Managers and Fans.

    You admit you rate hard, but you are not the voice of Boxing Mac, nor the Recorded History.

    Boxing has enough problems without denying Top & Good fighters their place, especially if they already had it!
     
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  6. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    David Price would like to enter the conversation!
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    No I certainly am not,on the other hand, you think your Grandad Gilroy was world class whereas I don't think he was ,and maybe not even Euro class! Maybe if he was my Grandad I would think differently? It's all just opinion.

    Cobb was Ring ranked for 2 years and beat,Mercado, and Shavers.Chuvalo was Ring ranked 6 times and beat,Cleroux,DeJohn,Miteff,Jones,Quarry, and Ramos,so yes , I think they were both world class. If you can beat top ten men ,you are world class,if you can't ,you aint!
     
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  8. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fitzimmons
    Farr
    Cooper
    Bruno
    Lewis
    Joshua
    Fury
     
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  9. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie

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    No, it's recorded history, not opinion...

    Mayweather said Gatti was a C class fighter, which we all know was a bit harsh, Gatti was a great basic boxer & fighter, B Class sure, with the odd A Class possibility, some would wrongly say the same about Haugen, but that too is harsh. Hatton same...

    the point is some of those UK Heavyweights are World Classed as the Recorded History pointed out, that's all.
     
  10. mcvey

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    Which ones?We can hardly debate them if you don't name them.

    Where is it recorded in history that such and such , was world class?
     
  11. Seamus

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    Gary Mason seemed headed in that direction.
     
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  12. mcvey

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    But he never proved to be the best in the UK.just good Euro level,imo but slow and not hard to tag ,nice guy.
     
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  13. PopPellegrino

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    I would also add Horace Notice
     
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  14. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie

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    the RING Magazine and their Annual (and Monthly) Ratings account for hundreds of World Classed Boxers over the years,
    Boxing News for Brits and even Americans, Europeans and campaigning empire fighters while in the UK...
    the Press, Reporters and even letters from fans...

    You know this, Recorded History, so why would you ask questions like that when you know these are the resources we all refer too and rely on. Text books and the like...

    what you don't use these?

    Of course you do,
    so why would you belittle others as if they don't, these are the Trade Papers & Contemporary Newspapers will all the Top Sport & Boxing Writers.
     
  15. HistoryZero26

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    He knocked down Sam Langford. Johnson passed on fighting him.

    You can use this line to discredit any fighter who mostly stuck to their regional scene. Yeah he has no notable wins except Moir and he didn't live up to his potential but we know he was generally "for real". Whose to say he wouldn't have beaten a Tommy Burns in 1909?
     
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