How many wins would Frazier have vs

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Schemling had was a good counter puncher, Ali is not God, which you people seem to be placing Ali on. Prime Ali could be beating. No one is unbeating. Schemling had good power, underated speed, he could put combintions togetor, I think Schemling could pull the upset like Ken Norton did. Schemling was pretty tricky, unless you can blast him out like Max Baer did of couse.

 

I'd say 4 or 5

 

Besides the FOTC which fight do you think he won?

 

I'll go with 6.

 

Almost evey one has Fraizer beating the Rock. I belive its 50 50. But I lean more with the Rock for his 2 handed power.

 

When there have been Marciano-vs.-Frazier polls in the past, Marciano's won.

 

I'd make Joe even-odds or a slight underdog against these guys, but I think he'd at least win one of these three fights.

About 50/50

Foreman is obviously a heavy favorite.

Edge to Frazier in these fights.

About even odds here.

Clear edge to Joe.

Thus, I would expect a total of 5-7 wins for Frazier.

 

Louis~ Louis, although Frazier would have his moments.

Marciano~ Marciano (understand why others pick Frazier.)

Liston~ Liston

Ali~ Ali...just.

Foreman~ Ummmmmm....yeah, that about says it all.

Holmes~ Holmes.

Holyfield~ Frazier edges a close decision. A bit like Holyfiedl-Qawi 1, except Frazier actually can really hurt Holyfield.

Lewis~ Lewis

Tyson~ If I think Marciano can withstand Tyson's early round assault, Frazier can too. Frazier in the later rounds.

Bowe~ Frazier.

Vitaly ~ Frazier

4 out of 10.

 

I have to say that I think Frazier gets underrated a lot. IMO, if he's not in your top 5, you're underrating him.

A great left hook was not all that Frazier had. However, if you have arguably the best left hook of all time, you don't need your right hand to beat most fighters. A sharp fast left hook is very difficult to punch to stop and throwing same does not expose a fighter to counter-punches the same way that throwing right hands does.

Frazier also had incredible stamina, a great chin, unbelievable heart, and was surpassed only by a few HW's in punching power. He also had great defensive and presure fighting skills.

On his best day, I give him a great shot to beat just about anyone.

 

Top 5 might be a little strict, but you get my point.

He's #4 on my list. I have Louis, Ali and Dempsey ahead of him. I'm not of the opinion that a prime Ali beats a prime Frazier, but I have to rate him higher as a result of his career accomplishments. Marciano is #5 on my list btw. I have Frazier edging him out by a **** hair based on performance and quality of opposition.

 

Limiting it to mammals underrates the animal kingdom somewhat.:fire

I would say an 8 metre saltwater croc would have a great chance against prime Ali, so would a 6 metre great white shark - especially if the bout was staged in a submerged ring...

 

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Louis - Louis

Marciano - Frazier by a C-hair, I would be prepared to lose a testicle to see this war...

Liston - Liston early or Frazier late

Ali - Ali UD

Foreman - Foreman

Holmes - Frazier wears him down, late stoppage or UD, great fight

Holyfield - Frazier narrow UD

Lewis - Frazier UD, won on superior activity

Tyson - Tyson KO early or Frazier decision

Bowe - Frazier narrow UD

Vitaly - Frazier KO

 

Siberian Tigers and Polar Bears over Ali???

I see you're backing the white guys over the black guy as usual Luigi.