Louis 40/60 Marciano 45/55 Liston 25/75 Ali 40/60 Foreman 10/90 Holmes 40/60 Holyfield 40/60 Lewis 20/80 Tyson 20/80 Bowe 35/65 Vitaly 50/50 365/1000 or 3.65 projected wins out of ten. I'd guess 4. Frazier's main problem is he doesn't match up well vs big punchers, and although he beat some big heavies, he didn't look great vs Mathis or Bugner. This list is full of punchers, and much better big heavies. Sorry Frazier fans. If Charles, Corbett, and Tunney were on the list, I'd pick Frazier in these fights.
No, I don't think Norton should be rated above Frazier. I never said that. I think what should be remembered here is the person who is mis quoting others and starting trouble. Frazier big favorite over Bowe? Let's look at Frazier's fights vs Large heavies. Frazier was down on points to an over weight Buster Mathis until round seven, and was stunned and failed to stop Joe Bugner. I think Bowe is much better and hits much harder than Mathis or Bugner. Bowe owned a prime Holyfield who had a much better chin than Frazier, more variety, and better size. Bowe had a good right and uppercut, which are punches that worked well vs Frazier. In all his fights, Bowe has yet to be knocked out. Frazier is not winning this one on points; he could not take too many of Bowe power shots either. Frazier would need to start fast ( which he usually did not ), and get to Bowe before Bowe landed his bombs.
I think: Louis: Louis, late stoppage. Marciano: Frazier. Liston: Liston, early KO. Ali: Prime-Ali, UD. Foreman: Foreman, early. It already happened (twice). :tong Holmes: Holmes, UD. Holyfield: Frazier, by decision. Lewis: Lewis, late KO. Tyson: Tyson gets to Joe. Early. Bowe: Frazier, by TKO. Vitali: Frazier stops him mid-rounds. * That's 4 wins then for Frazier. :good
That´s not fair for the humans, in the water both animals would be in their element, but on the other side, even in the water Ali was so fast, I don´t think the saltwater croc or the white shark would get him to be honest...
Ali at the pre fight interview with the shark: Great white come out bitin' but I'll be already fightin' He'll be snapin' and a chompin' but I'll come back rompin' He'll come at me swimin' and I'll give him a whippin' This might sound aweful flighty but I will destroy ol' whitie
Frazier only fought Ali and Foreman on that list. Liston i pick and Tyson a good chance but all the others it could go either way. I don't think Louis or Marciano ever fought a fighter as great as Frazier. Marciano was getting a beating by Walcott until the ko. I think Frazier would destroy Walcott with no big problems, same with Ezzard Charles, Archie Moore.
Nothing new from an Ali- nuthugger, who tries indirectly always hype up Ali´s career in every post... the normal Ali- fan is a threatened variety, I think in the sooner future totally extinct...
and nothing new from the clown of the forum who thinks he's some kind of expert on boxing - has the info but hasn't got any boxing brain