How many years did Margarito's wraps take off Cotto's career?

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  1. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It is impossible to say, but the Margarito wraps were a defining moment in his career. Not many fighters have taken a beating like that. Resto was the last known man to pull such an assault.

    Cotto's career will always have a "what if" attached to it because of the plaster wraps.
     
  2. CrossedLine

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    Hes asking for an opinion *******.

    TS, I'd say 2 or 3. He just can't take the punishment, mentally or physically. First bad loss is always scary, let alone the hellhouse that was the ring that night.
     
  3. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    So let's get this straight. Concreto won't load up for Cotto in a fight promoted as his last shot at the big time yet he will against Mosley in a fight promoted as a tune-up? :lol: How dumb do you think I am?, if your brain can't comprehend or purposely doesn't because Concreto is from Tijuana, you need to man up and push emotions aside as a fan of this sport, not specific imbeciles based on nationality. Cotto suffering nowhere near Billy doesn't disapprove **** unless you're that simple minded, do you expect similar result to occur to all people? Even the face-off confrontation where Concreto resorted to feminine desperate responses like "whatever, no no, I no sheait" you're still trying to justify this ****? :patsch
     
  4. pound

    pound Coqui Radar Full Member

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    People really need to stop defending Margarito's cheating ass. He could have killed Cotto. Boxing is deadly enough.
     
  5. pound

    pound Coqui Radar Full Member

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    Cotto was on his way to scoring some big money bouts around that time in 2008 too. So he definitely slowed down Cotto's success and the course of his career in general. Cotto could have been filthy rich long ago, set well enough to retire now with 1/2 the damage he took in his career. Margarito altered everything for Cotto.
     
  6. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :deal

    I'm sure the same people defending Margo would be demanding Cotto go to prison if the situation was reversed. And they would be right.
     
  7. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Margarito is from Torrance CA.
     
  8. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Listen, let me make one thing clear here now.
    Brining out solid facts of the situation of Margarito vs Cotto is not allowed here on ESB.

    Margarito beat down Miguel Cotto under the circumstances that you just described, but stop that. Lets just roll with ESB's notion and ignore that facts of the matter that in Nevada, you have to use the material in a sealed bag given to each fighter.

    Thats not good here when it comes to Margarito, comprende? :D
     
  9. CrossedLine

    CrossedLine Active Member Full Member

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    Margarito didn't cheat dumbasses. It was a booger. His trainer had a cold that day, its been proven.
     
  10. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    Wait... you are going to defend a Mexican for cheating because there is no direct evidence even though he got caught eventually but you are going to hate on PEDs vs non Mexican with absolutely zero evidence?

    Dude, your butthurtness is so big that it will resolve the Unified Field Theory.
     
  11. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Still waiting for the CSAC to announce that the knucklepads confiscated have hardened.
    Last word was that they had'nt.

    They want to call it plaster, but cant say they hardened like plaster.

    Did you know that those knucklepads under confiscation could still bend and not break????

    How do you bend plaster without breaking it?????

    There were so many details left out by the CSAC when they did their investigation.
     
  12. El Fijador

    El Fijador ¡Aguas! Donaire Full Member

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    Well I'd say 0 since they tried to cheat against Balco boy Mosley...
     
  13. bazza12

    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Margarito was found with plaster of paris? Nope. He cheated against Miguel Cotto? Nope. Go and check the facts if you are uncertain. If you are still ******ed enough to think that a fighter would put actual building material on his hands and then punch something for 40 minutes.....read the article I attach.

    "Boxing Illustrated conducted an experiment to test whether it was possible to use plaster of paris successfully under fighting conditions. The results were reported in the May 1964 issue of BI, pp 20-24, 66. Hugh Benbow and Perry Payne (manager and trainer of Cleveland Williams) used plaster of paris on Cleveland's hands...Cleveland Williams hit the heavy bag five times. Benbow examined the wraps and found that the plaster had cracked and crumbled. "This stuff." said Cleve, "wouldn't do anybody any good."

    "The Boxing Illustrated test proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the plaster of paris would not have held up after the first punch, it would have crumbled and left chunks in his mitts and every punch thereafter would have been quite painful and there is little doubt he would have broken his hands. The inventor of the product issued a statement as to the impossibility of using plaster of paris without breaking all the bones in the hands."

    But yeah, forget the fact Cotto ate left uppercuts, sat on the ropes and chose to trade with the bigger man that night in Vegas. Forget that a Mosley-beaten, two years inactive, one-eyed, 33 year old Margarito still gave Cotto problems last year. It all fits a lot nicer then, doesn't it?

    Below is the article, for anyone who actually cares.
    http://coxscorner.tripod.com/dempsey_gloves.html
     
  14. The Chosen

    The Chosen Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cotto came off worse but he damaged Margo up pretty bad too. I think people forget how much Cotto was landing especially early on, it wasn't a one sided beatdown, it was a war at least until the last couple of rounds.
     
  15. bazza12

    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh, and I'm a Cotto fan, by the way. Cotto-Judah was actually the first live stateside fight I watched in its entirety.