How many years has it been since Joshua defeated a top 10 opponent?

Otto Wallin lol, there's no way it's this bad. The great mythical "resume". I hope either Fury and Usyk retire after their rematch, leaving aj to get the sloppy seconds. Imagine the look when the aj fans know he can't do anything about it

 

I'm adding Ajagba to the list (now top 10 in RING while Otto is rank 20) - his win over Kossobutskiy is better than anything Wallin has done. There is zero chance that Otto Wallin was better than:

Whyte
Ortiz
Kabayel
Ajagba
Dubois
Sanchez
Anderson

You don't know s*** about boxing if you think that. You think a SD win over an inactive cruiserweight is somehow a good HW resume? Or is it the points win over inactive, retired Breazeale that did it for you? You're the same person who bashes Wilder for his KO1's over bums (Breazeale), but when Otto decisions that same totally untrained, inactive "bum" it's suddenly a good win?

Otto is terrible and fought like he's terrible on the big stage. He gets destroyed by everyone on the above list now or six months ago. His HW resume sucks and he was never top 10.

Joshua hasn't defeated an opponent in the top 10 for over half a decade, yet people like you want to pretend he's the #2 of the division.

 

another but my fantasy ratings doe

 

Is Wallin better than the following:

Whyte
Ortiz
Kabayel
Ajagba
Dubois
Sanchez
Anderson

Ratings by any organization are fantasy ratings. If you have money in the bank you can quite literally buy a rating from an organization. You realize how high an 0-1 MMA fighter was ranked?

It's up to real boxing fans to make sensible rankings. The reality is Wallin was never a top 10 fighter and he gets pummeled by everyone on that list. Joshua hasn't beaten a top 10 fighter since 2018.

 

Below is what I could find with Ring mag ratings when respective fights happened.
I have only taken from when he first won a world title


Joshua -

Martin #9
Breazeale
Molina
Klitschko #1
Takam
Parker #3
Povetkin #3
(Was due to face Miller #8)
Ruiz
Ruiz #3
Pulev #10
Usyk #4 P4P
Usyk #1
Franklin
(Was due to rematch Whyte #6)
Helenius
Wallin #10
Ngannou

 

Yeah this about sums it up. I've removed the losses and "was due to face" because we're looking at a win column.

Wallin clearly was not an actual #10 - see my above post. The next win is a 40 year old Pulev who was a year inactive and was definitely not worthy of the #10 ranking. A 285lb Andy Ruiz in the rematch was ****ing useless and clearly not #3 despite scoring a big upset. There are at least 15 fighters who could've beaten this plodding, useless version of Andy.

It's actually a very poor run for the past 6 years considering how AJ fans slobber all over the mythical "resume".

 

Not really seeing it like you
I am not a fan but do think that he has pursued the best challenges (win or lose).
Of course after a loss he is going to work his way back and have a few filler fights
In only his 19th fight he was facing the #1 rated HW
He has 3 separate fights to win the 3 titles that he unified. It wasn't like he picked up all the titles with one fight
As far as The ring mag ratings went, Wallin was a top 10 rated HW whether either of us agree or not
Pulev was 39 and was rated I think for what he had overall achieved, was 30-1, had some decent wins throughout his career even if not for a period of time before facing Joshua.
In his career at that time had beaten Thompson, Ustinov, Dimetrenko, Chisora, Sprott, Skelton, H Fury, Peter for example. I'm not saying that is an atg resume but very respectful and arguably better than some of the current top 10

 

Bailey my friend! I was thinking about you the other day when I was watching Howl again. I’m pretty sure you were the one that recommended that movie to me in one of the werewolf threads.

 

Yes.
Of course.

And not "we"

You !

It was You who asked about top ten opponents.

This is factually incorrect.
Going into the AJ rematch, Andy was ranked Number ONE by the highly respected Transnational Boxing Rankings and Number THREE by RING magazine, the Bible of boxing.

Unless you can cite a ranking lower than 10 in some reputable ranking organization's list

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, Andy was the last top ten opponent that AJ defeated.

So the answer to the thread question is....four years, going on five.


To provide context, During the last three years, AJ has ...

..twice went the distance with the best heavyweight on the planet.

...in the space of eleven months fought and won four fights ( three by KO), brutally knocking out two opponents who gave Tyson Fury all he could handle. In fact most think one of them beat Fury.

So AJ has been rebuilding and is currently the number two ranked contender of both the Transnational Boxing Rankings and RING magazine.

He has been the busiest top HW of the past two years and has arguably the second best resume in HW boxing at the minute and will undoubtedly get a crack at the winner ( or loser) of theFury / Usyk rematch.

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Slyk's Top ten rankings don't meet this criterion.




PPS

I've just learned that Wallin was ranked in the top ten by both the Transnational Boxing rankings and RING magazine.


So the answer to the thread question is...less than six months....or, since you asked how many years...just under 0.5

 

Lol
Indeed I was
I seem to think you weren't impressed with the film but I thought it was easy watching no thrills horror tbh
It would never be The Howling or An American Werewolf in London, but just a simple easy watch
I take it you gave it another viewing?

 

285 pound plodding Andy Ruiz ranked #1 by "highly respected" ranking publication LOL

No one is taking that, or you, seriously. See above regarding The Ring and a pay to play ranking system. Tell me you honestly believe Wallin was at any point in his career better than ALL of the following:

Whyte
Ortiz
Kabayel
Ajagba
Dubois
Sanchez
Anderson

You can't. You say it's 5 years since a top 10 win in Obese Andy, I say it's 6 years and the win was 39 year old Povetkin.

 

Rankings aren't necessarily personal, they are often based on achievement
So with the fighters you mentioned to when Wallin was ranked Wallin was ranked he was coming off wins over Gassiev and was remembered for giving Fury a tough fight and beating Breazeale
His only loss was in giving Fury a tough fight

Whyte at that time had a bad loss to Fury and close win over Franklin
Ortiz had had a tough fight with Martin and lost to Ruiz
Kabayel at that time didn't have many noticeable wins arguably at that time Chisora 6 years previously was possibly his biggest win
Ajagba didn't have any big wins at that time
Dubois hadn't beaten miller at that time
Sanchez I think may have been rated above
Andersons arguably biggest win was probably Martin

Now that doesn't mean Wallin may not lose to all of the above, (though I would pick him in some of them) but it is based on what is actually done than speculation and Otto was coming off a win over Gassiev

 

Whyte was an established contender with far better wins than a SD over a cruiserweight.
Ortiz defeated a former champ and had a shootout with Joshua conqueror Ruiz, proving his level.
Kabayel has a lot of underrated wins over lesser known fighters
Ajagba defeated Kossobutskiy which is a better win than Gassiev
Dubois' club level wins combined are better than Gassiev
Sanchez defeating Ajagba is CLEARLY better than Gassiev - he was not rated above Wallin per pay to play Ring Mag.
Anderson's body of work is also better, again, than a SD win over a cruiserweight

This is what was actually done and not speculation. Speculation is giving someone a ranking based on a LOSS when a huge cut was involved.

 

1)
You don't seem to understand that a win on the Day Of Reckoning card doesn't put you in the top 10 before the day of reckoning card ,

I.e. Dubois - so a dodgy result against a worse cruiserweight, Lerena
I.e. Kabayel - he was languishing

2)
And you clearly don't watch the fights to come out with a lot of what you just said

Ajagba v Kossobutskiy. Did you count the low blows from Ajagba? Lol it was a screw job

Anderson has been fighting patsies. Why do you think he was steered away from Kossobutskiy? Who is his best win? A former cruiserweight?

Wallin made easy work of Gassiev, it was a SD because he was fighting on a Gassiev funded card in Turkey. Watch the fight...
And Gassiev was just as active than Wallin. Look at who had the longer lay off. lol
Add his run of wins, controversy against Fury, and win over Breazeale.

3)
inactivity & PED bans kind of matter

Ruiz was innactive with a good win, but with nothing lined up. Screwed by PBC/WBC but he sat on his arse.

Ortiz was innactive, coming off a loss, with nothing lined up. Besides, losing effort to Fury or Ruiz? I know which I rate more highly.

Whyte was serving a silent ban, and had likely slipped out anyway following his nonshow against Fury and efforts against Franklin.

Sanchez sure, I'll give you that but it depends how much you rate the Ajagba win.

So, that is 1, Sanchez

You want to try again?

 

Do you think you've proven anything here? I think you should try again. Describing a fighter like Kabayel who had a better resume than Wallin BEFORE day of reckoning as simply "languishing" is your best effort?

You've done nothing to disprove anything I've said. Whyte was serving a "silent ban"?

Sanchez you agree with which immediately puts Wallin at #11 AT BEST, making your whole post pointless.

Anderson has been fighting patsies? What do you call the 9-4 fighter Otto fought before inactive cruiserweight Gassiev?

Ajagba beating Kossobutskiy is a screwjob? Do you think Golota got screwed? If you're getting beat up and have been warned for low blows twice and you throw a blatant low blow in front of the ref when he calls a break and get DQ'd, that's a screw job? You have no idea what you're talking about.

You're trying to give a club fighter a ridiculously high ranking (in your estimation, STILL only #11) for a loss vs. Fury and a win over an inactive, unproven guy north of his best weight class.

Try again.