How meaningful would a Pavlik victory over Floyd be?

Post 1 Dummeze: You say "fight weights"

My response: Mayorga / Pavlik

Post 2 Dummeze: You say "compare size then"

My response: You are moving the goal posts

Post 3 Dummeze: Stove you are dumb because I said size as well.

Eze you dumb ass. You abandoned your whole compare fight night weights argument. How can I be the one who thinks a Mayo win for Pav would have meaning - you are the one - or were - saying its all about fight night weights.

We both know that its not necessarily any one thing every time. Fight night weights, the size of the men, how well they perform at the weight etc, all these things are important.

You can fry it steam it boil it put chile on it, do a little ra ra money may dance, you can sprinkle paprika on it and tabasco, but we all know that Mayweather making JMM move up nine pounds to fight is some bull**** and if he wins it cannot be looked at as a clear, righteous and significant pound for pound victory without some serious questions.

 

Wow great argument.
Then why didn't he fight him at 140? :hi: end/ thread

 

HE wouldn't fight Hatton in Manchester. I don't blame him for that. However, you are blind and dumb if you think a fighter does not gain an advantage by not having to make a smaller weight and forcing a smaller fighter to come up in weight....nine pounds.

Paul Williams has a huge frame and may even fight again as low as welter, however, we dont' know that that frame is going to allow him to hang with full fledged top level 160 fighters.

To ignore the disadvantage that JMM is at in this fight is to be a

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plain and simple.

 

Bull****. If Floyd is so damned similar in size than lets see him make 135 the day before the fight like JMM and JMM's last two opponents. He won't do that because he is a bigger guy.

 

Why was Floyd and company fighting in negotiations to make this fight at the highest weight possible and JMM wanted to make it as low as possible?

Eze you ought to just abandon your argument and admit that Floyd has a significant advantage and wants it that way.

Do you honestly think JMM wanted this fight at 144?

You keep talking about they are the same size but you know damn well Floyd has every possible advantage at 144. It is quite possible and even probable in some cases that JMM would lose to the top junior welters and welters let alone FMJ. So how significant is it?

And speaking of sizes and people being the same size, would you say Pacquiao taking out Juan Manuel Lopez at 140 right now would be a pound for pound victory?? Lopez has a bigger frame than Pacquiao. He is taller with a longer reach. How about Linares and Gamboa? These victories would have some meaning but its not the same thing as beating a proven prime winning fighter in your own weight class and you know damn well thats the truth.