How much better Is Floyd than Cotto?

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  1. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Hatton was the WBA WW Champion. The title Cotto holds now.

    Also, while Cotto has Shane Mosley. He struggled with him and he was old.

    The only reason Cotto's look so good is because of the name Shane Mosley.
     
  2. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Cotto struggled against Mosley and had to cheat against Judah.

    Floyd dominated all 3 of his opponents. Cotto dominated two, after cheating with one.
     
  3. TFFP

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    What's your point?

    Mosley is the best name on that list by a country mile. Considering the ass whupping Williams got handed by another name on Cotto's list, I think we can safely say he was the third best at the weight

    Quintana also starts to look pretty good...

    Don't try and make Baldomir out to be something he's not. He's a journeyman, with the losses column in double figures. He got a win against a mentally weak Judah, who they both happened to beat easily
     
  4. Gunns4hire

    Gunns4hire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    clearly stated!:good

    Once again TFFP whose sack are you swinging from?
     
  5. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Power: Cotto (Cotto, his right hand is underrated, and his hook is money. )
    Speed: Floyd (Cotto's handspeed is underrated, but Floyd has the clear edge)
    Defense: Floyd (Again, Cotto is underrated in terms of D, but Floyd's just better)
    Ring Smarts: Even (Cotto's damned good at giving people different looks, and can read what's in front of him, but Floyd can do the same thing- edge to Floyd if I had to choose, but the differenence isn't big enough to compel me to choose)
    Adaptability: Even (Cotto and PBF have both faced a wide variety of styles, and they've both adapted.)
    Timing: Floyd (Cotto's timing is very good. Floyd's timing is great_
    Heart: Even (I get the impression that both fighters would rather undergo open heart surgery without anesthetic than lose a prize fight, and it shows)
    Stamina: Even (Both fighters can do 12 rounds no problem. )
    Level of Comp: Floyd overall.

    They match up well enough that this is fun match-up. Let's see how it plays out in the ring.
     
  6. Gunns4hire

    Gunns4hire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't know, Cotto did cheat against Judah! and Mosley is only there because of his name and history. He's fought and beat one person on the ww list Collazo.. Who lost to Hatton who Floyd ko'ed.

    Once again who's sack are you swinging from?
     
  7. eze

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    Mosley is the best looking name. But Mosley is the not the fighter of the past. Mosley is past it and far from his best. Mosley hasn't had a big win since DLH in 2003 and that many argue with.

    Baldomir whether you like it or not, was the WW Lineal Champion that had not lost in years.

    Cotto beat Judah easily after needing to nut shot him twice. It didn't get the win for Cotto but it took some sting out of Judahs punches.
     
  8. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Do you think the 2007 Mosley is better than Hatton and Baldomir?
     
  9. Gunns4hire

    Gunns4hire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Baldomir probably... But Mosley and Hatton beat the same WW by decision and both loss to top ranked WW.. Maybe they should fight and find out... lol
     
  10. eze

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    Mosley was obviously better then Baldomir, but if you are talking purely fighter and not WW.


    Hatton was the better fighter overall fighter than Mosley in 2007.
     
  11. Gunns4hire

    Gunns4hire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    the difference in 2007 with Hatton and Mosley is that....Mosley loss a fight that he was expected to win, and Hatton loss a fight he was expected to lose..So what is worse? losing to the number one guy in the division or the number two?
     
  12. TFFP

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    Far from his best, but still the big name on that list, in your own words. Considering they both have 3 decent wins at the weight, its pretty dumb to be playing it down. I'd say it's a pretty major factor in comparing their WW resumes. Also worth remembering, Mosley schooled Collazo, who gave Hatton all kidns of hell if you want to go down the route of who did what to who

    Besides Mosley you then have Quintana, who was pissing blood for weeks after that fight yet has proved himself as a very good fighter. Better than any of Mayweather's wins. Go on, tell me Baldomir is a better fighter because he was lineal champ :roll:

    Mayweather beat Judah more convincingly, but styles make fights. Judah is always the same, dangerous in the early rounds, but he was never winning either fight. Low blows is just desperation, as you try to gain points for style of victory, because I think you know the names don't compare
     
  13. Gunns4hire

    Gunns4hire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Blah, Blah, Blah....Mayweather's resume is better, quit fighting it!
     
  14. 196osh

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    Hatton would have got the crap beaten out of him by Shane if they fought in 2007. :good
     
  15. TFFP

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    Overall, yes

    At WW it is not, which is what I took issue with

    I don't give a **** about either fighter, but the guy was bullshitting