How much credit should Dempsey get for his controversial victory over Jack Sharkey?

"only hope for you as a human being"

So you set yourself up as my Judge as a human being?

A bit full of yourself, aren't you? We are just discussing a film of a boxing match in which the man you claimed fouled was not disqualified for fouling by the referee who was in position to have a clearer view of the punch than the camera gives us.

 

"I don't have to show a still of a low blow"

That is what would be evidence.

 

Wrong. Low blow is anything below an imaginary line the joins the hip bones.

 

Dempsey should have wrote him a letter.

 

There are certain posters that despise Jack Dempsey so much it borders on paranoia...To my friends on ESB who accept the ko verdict rendered by the referee, the New York State Commission of 1927, and most every boxing figure of note those days, it means squat to these haters who 90 years later
cannot accept the damn fact that Dempsey won that fight fairly and squarely
as judged by the referee...It galls me that these egotists cannot accept this fact...cheers fellas...

 

PowerPuncher has watched Dempsey on film before and come to the conclusion that PowerPuncher might beat him, and that any decent amateur would beat him.

"massively biased" ... :think

 

Exactly right!

 

"He said I hit him when he wasn't looking,well what the hell ,why aint you looking? The fights still on you should be looking,not at the referee, looking at me."

"What was I going to do right him a letter ?"
Jack Dempsey post fight comments.

 

Actually you do ,the onus is on you to prove Dempsey landed low ,not on others to prove he did not.
Your
second comment indicates you don't know what constitutes a low blow.
A low blow is a punch that lands below an imaginary line drawn across the hip bones.

 

Mcvey......I believe this is where many get the wrong impression. They see Dempseys punches land on Sharkeys black trunks and just assume these are low blows. If the blows land above the imaginary line from hip bone to hip bone they are legal. Finally the first look at the fight film took place a week after the bout! Headlines were "film of fight shows body blows were legal". End of story. We are debating old news. YES at the fights conclusion lots of controversy as depending on where you were sitting in the arena you had a different conclusion of what happened. Remember no instant replays. As the days went by and the film was looked at the conclusion was just as what you should conclude today. Those three body blows were above the area considered low. It's really quite obvious once you understand what a low blow is by definition and you look at the film of the fight.

 

Burt, one should not be called a hater because they disagree .. the fight was highly controversial and greatly disputed at the time as the newspaper coverage clearly shows .. just my two cents ..

 

U, "massively biased " correct. It sums up that man. Too bad the Manassa Mauler cannot defend himself from the grave today from the likes of that poster....Ciao U...

 

he, nice to hear from you. I do not call some of the posters "haters" because they disagree in the ko of Jack Sharkey
by Dempsey in 1927. NOT AT ALL. But since I have been on this site beginning in 2010 a pattern has emerged from a few posters
belittling and castigating the character and abilities of Jack Dempsey way beyond the norm, and bordering on the clinical...Who the hell knows their motives ? But I do know that these holier than thou naysayers pretend to know more than the
thousands of great fighters, trainers, boxing writers who saw the Jack Dempsey at his best and considered him a great heavyweight and after he retired a BELOVED gentleman who NEVER belittled an opponent and was considered the greatest fistic attraction of alltime...AND A PRODUCT OF HIS TIMES....

 

There is no question Sharkey was ahead. If you actually read various newspaper accounts in detail they will say that Dempsey was coming on with his body assault. This culminated with the three consecutive right hands to the body that were legal and crippling that then led to the Ko.