How much credit should Pac get for beating Clottey?

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  1. Flea Man

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    I have Pac between 35-40 on my ATG p4P list

    Floyd between 80-90:good
     
    Flea Man, Mar 17, 2010
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  2. s23041983

    s23041983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    they were at the time. Ndou isnt much better than clottey and ghatti was a warrior... THAT fight was what dominating your opponent was all about!!!
     
    s23041983, Mar 17, 2010
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  3. s23041983

    s23041983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yeah i would rate pac higher too, but what if floyd beats pac? does he go higher on your list? i think i would! :think
     
    s23041983, Mar 17, 2010
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  4. s23041983

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    yeah pacs is better... but honestly, not by much imo.
     
    s23041983, Mar 17, 2010
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  5. Flea Man

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    Floyd would not jump 50-odd places based on one win.

    Gatti, at 140, is a NOTHING win for a supposedly 'great' fighter.
     
    Flea Man, Mar 17, 2010
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  6. s23041983

    s23041983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i see what u mean.

    so even if pac loses to mayweather, then pac has still done more than him?
     
    s23041983, Mar 17, 2010
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  7. Flea Man

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    Yes. In my opinion.
     
    Flea Man, Mar 17, 2010
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  8. s23041983

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    in what way would he have done more than him? :think
     
    s23041983, Mar 17, 2010
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  9. kosaros

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    Floyd's best wins:
    Genaro Hernandez
    Diego Corrales
    Jesus Chavez
    Jose Luis Castillo x2
    Zab Judah
    Oscar De La Hoya
    Ricky Hatton

    Pacquiao's best wins:
    Chatchai Sasakul
    Lehlohonolo Ledwaba
    Marco Antonio Barrera x2
    Eric Morales
    Juan Manuel Marquez
    Ricky Hatton
    Miguel Cotto

    Looking at it, I think it is clear who has the better record IMO :good
     
    kosaros, Mar 17, 2010
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  10. s23041983

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    if sasakul and ledwaba are added to pacquiaos best wins, then manfredy, philip ndou, demarcus corley and arturo gatti should be added to floyds list. :rofl
     
    s23041983, Mar 17, 2010
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  11. kosaros

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    Read about them before posting such tripe :good

    Sasakul's only defeat before Pacquiao was to Arbachkov, arguably a P4P top 10 fighter. He then avenged this loss and handed Arbachkov his only career defeat. Not to mention Arbachov was the top man in his division for 5 years. Sasakul was also within the top 10 of the division for 5 years before he met Pacquiao as well and was regarded as the 'top dog' when he and Pacquiao met.

    Ledwaba was one of the top guys at super-bantam for 2-3 years and had defended his IBF belt a fair few times before fighting Pacquiao. Not as strong as an opponent as Sasakul, but still a good opponent.
     
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  12. Flea Man

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    Agreed. Fluky as it was, Sakasul was a quality vuctory
     
    Flea Man, Mar 17, 2010
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  13. s23041983

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    i was only playing you fool. but i do think ndou and gatti should be added. they were genuin world class competition at the time.
     
    s23041983, Mar 17, 2010
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  14. Flea Man

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    Honestly, Gatti :rofl
     
    Flea Man, Mar 17, 2010
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  15. s23041983

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    i dont think it was fluky. mannys heart man, he just kept coming forward walking through shots and finally got that big left hand. plus, sakasul kept bobbing his head to the right, right onto mannys left hand.
     
    s23041983, Mar 17, 2010
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