How much do controversial wins count against a great fighter?

Andre Ward

 

Joe Louis beat Walcott twice but all the reporting and writing that details the fights show that the majority felt Walcott won the first go around. That was like 70, 80 years ago... Louis did an immediate rematch and KO'd him. That does a lot to the legacy as opposed to winning with controversy then never facing the adversary again.

Everybody seems pretty good at acknowledging that Chisora severely outboxed fan-favorite Helenius. That definitely smashed Heleius legacy pretty bad. How could one not treat it as a loss for Helenius?

 

I dont I mean unless it was a very uninspiring performance vs a guy he should kill

 

Considering controversial wins only happen in the UK, and 'European level' is barely a step up from 'Bum', they're irrelevant.....

Seriously though.....

Every 'Great Fighter' has a controversial Win/Loss/Draw.

To be a 'Great Fighter', you have to have shared the ring with a guy who was perceived as 'Just as Great/Even Greater' than you.

So when you've got two guys, with nothing to seperate them, you're always going to get controversy.



The Main problem actually arises when you have results like Holyfield/Lewis and GGG/Canelo where it is clear the result has been incorrect for political reasons.....

The fail by nationalistic fans to accept that these controversial decisions are just as likely in the US, as they are in the UK, or Germany....or Egypt, is the largest reason controversy is allowed to exist.


Fans spend to long arguing that their nation 'isn't as bad as 'x' nation', rather than admitting the controversy exists in the first place.

 

For example...I am not a fan of GGG or Canelo although I respect both of them....or in Canelos case I did.

In the first fight I had no rooting interest in the fight but expected Canelo to win. I scored it 114-114 and agree with decision.

In the 2nd encounter I soured on Canelo due to the tainted meat story x’s 2. And was loosely hoping GGG would win but expecting it close either way. I scored 115-113 Canelo and agree with the OFFICIAL decision.

If they fight a 3rd time (soon) I envision a similar close decision that could go either way. I would love to see it as a fan, but part of me realizes the likelihood of a close encounter that leaves one side or the other claiming injustice.

The problem of rating by opinion is that most people don’t understand effective aggression, defense and ring generalship as equal parts within the scoring of a fight

 

Maybe this will help someone
https://coolmaterial.com/feature/how-to-score-a-boxing-match/

 

Those parts are not equal, clean effective punches count above everything else.

http://www.premierboxingchampions.c...ge-steve-weisfeld-offers-tips-how-score-fight

Ironically this guy scored the second fight for Canelo^^ Didn't take his own advise I guess