How much do Daniel Óscar "Swift" García's career asterisks affect his legacy?

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yeah, I saw it once and I think I had it for Garcia by a point, I was actually tempted to add it to my post as well, but as another draw. But it's been such a long time since I've seen it and I've only seen it once, so I left it off. I would rewatch it but I can't stand watching either one of them.:lol:
     
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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I think I've scored it for each of them by a point, and once an actual draw.

    And yeah thrice is enough for a lifetime, it isn't great viewing. :sisi1
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Maybe if I'm feeling up for it tomorrow, just to bash Danny some more... I'll give it a second watch.:sisi1
     
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  4. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good 140 pounder, mediocre to say the least at 147. And a non-factor at 154 and above.

    PBC fans had a blind spot for him for some reason, I never understood why. He was soundly beaten by Thurman and some of them ridicuolusly tried to argue It could've gone either way.

    His swerwing of the Matthysse rematch mentioned in the OP, but he also blatantly ducked Postol at 140 who could've actually beaten him.
     
  5. Southpaw100

    Southpaw100 Member Full Member

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    Crawford wouldn’t have the balls to take this fight, Crawford never took a risk in his career most overrated fighter of the last 20 years, DSG win over Mathyse is better then any win on Crawford’s resume
     
  6. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    PBC nuthugger alert.

    DSG publicly ducked Crawford at 147, also ducked Postol 140 who Crawford beat to become the man there who was also DSG'S mandatory.

    There was obviously a reason for the ducking, as Crawford was not only a for superior to Garcia, he was also a terrible style-matchup. Bud would throughly outclass and embarass DSG, It would be so one sided that Angel Garcia would start crying in the corner by later rounds.
     
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  7. Southpaw100

    Southpaw100 Member Full Member

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    Crawford doesn’t have one good one win he’s the biggest hype job of the last 20 years he was protected by top rank while DSG took risks against khan and mathyse
     
  8. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're outright lying and being a moron now.

    Crawford fought the best available at 135 and became the lineal&legitimate champion.

    He fought the best available at 140(mainly Postol who DSG wanted no part of) and became undisputed.

    He fought the best available at 147(where DSG wanted no part of him) and became the undisputed champion.

    And took on arguably the #1 guy at 154 in his debut at the weight in a fight which was the very definition of high risk low reward.

    People discredit Crawford's undisputed run at 147 because he became such by beating(destroying) post-car crash Spence yet the same post-car crash Spence dominated Garcia, who lost everytime he stepped up at 147 and needed gift decisions against gatekeeper level opponents to get through his run at 140 undefeated..

    Trying to argue DSG has a better resume than Crawford just because he fought the boogeyman Matthsse 11 years ago is as idiotic as trying to argue Margarito has a better resume than Mayweather because he fought the boogeyman Paul Williams. Maybe even more idiotic.
     
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  9. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    I don’t think they will impact his legacy much, because I think his legacy is that of a pretty meddling fighter in a fairly weak era of his main divisions, generally coming up short against the other to guys.. During his “prime” Thurman was seen as the top dog at 147… He may be historically the weakest “top dog” of that division, awkwardly sandwiched between May/Pac era and Spence/Bud.

    Don’t get me wrong, I think Thurman was pretty good, but 147 is a historically stacked division..

    FTR: I’ve always thought if Khan didn’t get robbed against Peterson he would have whipped Danny, he seemed overly aggressive and emotional in that bout.

    I respect Danny, he was a good fighter with lots of heart who fought the best, and seemed to be fairly average athletically. Seemed likeable enough as he got older too.

    Khan win at that time was a good one even with my feelings about it described above, and so was Matthyse although it was close.
     
  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Has Danny ''The Six-Toed Lego Hair Freak'' actually ever legitimately won a fight against a world class opponent which has gone the distance?

    And that ''KD'' against Lucas should never have been deemed a KD by the corrupt home ref. An out of position Lucas was basically shoved into the ropes and he voluntarily went down to protect himself as he was tangled up in them. You do not rule a KD when a fighter is tangled up in the ropes and is unable to defend themselves, even more so after they've been bundled into them

    Edit: I completely forgot the ref was that shifty pencil moustache corrupt creep Tony Weeks ie. the same snake who waved Kovalev vs Ward 2 off on a flagrant foul when the correct procedure was to allow the fighter who'd been on the receiving end of the foul 5 minutes to recover and who literally waved Barroso vs Rolly off over nothing to ensure Rolly won the world title
     
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  11. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Danny "Gift" Garcia did well, made good money, and showed himself to be an obedient son to his father.
     
  12. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I was suprised when he dominated Granados, to be completely honest.

    I had a bit of a dislike for Garcia from very early on... watching him was like being force fed your peas and carrots as a child.

    Not a awful or completely untalented fighter, and world class at his best, sure. But will he be warmly discussed in coming years? I can't imagine so. He didn't stick out much in his own time.
     
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  13. peter_uk

    peter_uk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    For Garcia I don't feel it makes a massive amount of difference; with Garcia remembered for his performances against top opposition (ie his spirit in loss to Thurman, Porter, and Spence, as well as his huge heart in his victory vs Matthysse and his spectacular KO vs Khan.) When assessing his legacy some of the dubious decisions he got vs lower level opposition will end up being forgotten; I don't think this is right given how egregious the robbery vs Herrera was, but that's just boxing I guess.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Willing to stand and trade with a large natural welter with two fisted power in Spence, but scared of little Danny's oft-telegraphed left hook? Ehh, that feels like a stretch.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Matthysse was worthy of a good deal of his boogeyman hype. DSG fought him only reluctantly after being forced to, was nearly KTFO early, resorted to constant fouling, and won basically on the back of a blown officiating call and the Argentinian corner's incompetence (they didn't even have a ****ing endswell)
     
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