How much do Daniel Óscar "Swift" García's career asterisks affect his legacy?

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    These are my exact feelings. For a guy with a wallop-packing left hook and fairly excellent chin, he was a chore to watch. (and some of the more juvenile fans may have been at least entertained by his and his dad's pre-fight antics but...they weren't for me).

    In the grand scheme, above-average is the word. Well below what some of the PR and PBC contingents hyped him up to be for years on these boards. He has quite a few good names in his win column, but precious few actual quality wins.
     
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  2. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Danny was simply just a good fighter. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Compared to current junior welters, he was better than Taylor, Regis, and Teofimo, but compared to the great junior welters of the last 25 years, he was well below a Crawford, Pac, Tszyu, Floyd, Hatton.
     
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  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Better in his prime than Prograis or Taylor now, yes. I feel like both of those guys were twice as good before they fought each other. It's a cliché when commentators say "this fight is shortening their careers before our eyes!" - but it does happen.
     
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  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    The consensus vibe seems to be that he's remembered as "kind of mid compared to all-time greats, an okay world titlist for his time... he's ancient history now - so why you picking on him, IB? o_O"

    ...because it isn't goddamn fair. Whatever exactly García is remembered as, Matthysse is remembered reductively/revisionistically as just "the guy that lost to him". As though he spawned from nowhere for that fight, or had just padded up a record versus Argentine cab drivers before that. As though every boxing journalist and pundit didn't rate his power top 5 p4p if not the very hardest puncher for a couple of years, 2011-13.

    I hate that Matthysse's legacy is handcuffed to his as some obligate footnote, and that he wasn't given the courtesy of a rematch to prove who the better man in fact was.

    :mad:
     
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  5. Xplosive

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    Tbh, i don't think either was ever all that good, even in their primes.

    Taylor, even in his "prime" struggled with Baranchyk and a washed up Postol.
     
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  6. hoopsman

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    As problematic as the knockdown turned out to be, it was the repeated low blows and blatant dirty BS Garcia pulled after Matthysee tagged him early that really grinds my gears.

    It's as if DG knew he needed to bend the rules a bit to survive and get it to the cards.
     
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  7. Southpaw100

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    Spence was coming off a near death car crash and wasn’t the same, Crawford would not have fought a prime Spence, he doesn’t have a win against one elite fighter in their prime
     
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  8. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Man, this is a thread some YouTuber is going to quote 10/20 years from now when talking about early 2010s boxing.

    It was like going down a memory lane, you outdid yourself.
    I would like to add that one the Salka card, none of the B sides on the main card managed to win a round. Salka, Sanata, and Fletcher; they all got dominated and destroyed. One of the worst cards on SHO during that time.

    Also, before the Lara fight, the talks about Garcia getting into the HOF or being and ATH... well, it made me want to kill someone. Got my blood boiling real good. Imagine people, lots of them, talking at nauseam how Andy Ruiz belongs in the HOF. Ugh.
     
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