How much does a small hall show cost to promote?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by diagnosismurder, Nov 23, 2011.


  1. I'm sure there's a few quid in it.

    When you're starting off you'd have to do a deal with the owner of the place, so much per ticket goes to them etc rather than a flat fee, it'll give them the incentive to market the thing as best they can.

    A local Thai boxing gym stages it's own promotions, granted I'm pretty sure the man behind it doesn't make fortunes and the fighters don't get a lot of money, it's more of a hobby to them tbh.
     
  2. diagnosismurder

    diagnosismurder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yeah he staged one show with i think only five fights an sure if he sold all the tickets he would have made money on the show
     
  3. diagnosismurder

    diagnosismurder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Plus Hatton boxing covering some shows must be a boost to the small promotors
     
  4. donnie

    donnie Member Full Member

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    :shock: no way does a small hall show cost as much as the figures quoted on here.

    My uncle promotes muay thai shows in small halls and doesnt have to pay for the hall cause the beer sales the hall makes on one fight night is what they would earn in 3 months so to get promotors to promte there they do it for free.

    Muay thai novices are not even paid for there first few fights just earn there money from ticket commision. Sure it be the same for Boxing novices as well on small hall shows.

    Overall i know my uncle lays out around £2500 max for ring hire, paramedics, doctor, dj, 2 security guys, runners, trophies(not including phone bill) for a night show with 12 fights and around 300 spectators paying £15 a ticket. He pulls in from £1000 to £3000 profit but for the headaches from pullouts, phonebills and time it aint really worth it.
     
  5. diagnosismurder

    diagnosismurder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thought this was a interesting video on small hall boxing

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUX5YJNMS3E&sns=em[/ame]
     
  6. slapbangwhallop

    slapbangwhallop The Sweet Scientist Full Member

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    No in Ireland. I am hoping to have my first show next year.

    Colne in a fantastic spot though, I am always raving about it - just a pity its in the middle of nowhere - pisses all over the York Hall or any other "hallowed venue" in my opinion.
     
  7. tony mush

    tony mush Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    was that in galway?

    dunno what the capacite for neptune is but i always thought if it was promoted well and had well matched fights you could sell it out
     
  8. wrimc

    wrimc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Promoting your own show? You applied for appropriate licenses?
     
  9. slapbangwhallop

    slapbangwhallop The Sweet Scientist Full Member

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    In the process of. Should have the red tape untied by Christmas.
     
  10. wrimc

    wrimc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Congrats to you its something I would love to get involved in is there a lot of red tape from the BBBC? Are they financial based? Good luck to you btw :good
     
  11. slapbangwhallop

    slapbangwhallop The Sweet Scientist Full Member

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    I doubt anyone doing at the top level of Muay Thai in the UK gets anywhere near what even a journeyman boxer get.

    Lets say you had a six fight bill with the home fighter getting a £1.5k and the away fight getting £1k. Straight away you are up to £15k. Now I am sure you can find cheaper lads but you wont find many and the home fighters will take tickets instead of cash but its still an opportunity cost. So lets say you are doing well and the purses tally to £12k inc ticket cost.

    Then you have a late pull out and have to pay over the odds to get a replacement fighter in at short notice.

    Thats before you look at venue cost, ring, security, MC and sound system, refs, judges, board fees, doctor and stewards etc, ambulance, ringcard girls, ticket girls, tickets and posters, marketing, whip, yadda yadda yadda!

    You'd be doing well to limbo under £20k. Now there are short cuts but you often get what you pay for.

    Thats nearly 700 tickets (inc boxers own sold) at £30 each just to break even. Not a doddle that, especially in the current climate.

    If you can get a bit of sponsorship to ease the pain then that makes it a lot easier.

    I am sure you can do it for £10k though but it would be a miserable spectacle I reckon.
     
  12. slapbangwhallop

    slapbangwhallop The Sweet Scientist Full Member

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    Agh it all depends on if another certain bill show is announced, which is likely. If it is then I will slink back into the mists. No rush with it as I am still (relatively) young.
     
  13. tony mush

    tony mush Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    slap you might know this i was under the impression that a current fighter couldnt run a promotion hes fightin on in ireland is that true?
     
  14. WalletInspector

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    That's awesome. Good luck mate.
     
  15. diagnosismurder

    diagnosismurder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    when looking at title stephen vaughan has had the ibo international for tony dodson and the ibo full world title for derry matthews

    the costs of them are

    INTERNATIONAL TITLE
    PROMOTER
    CHAMPION’S FEE
    CHALLENGER’S FEE
    IBO BELT
    REFEREE (EURO 300)
    JUDGES (EURO 300)
    SUPERVISOR (EURO 500) $ 1,000.00
    $ 300.00
    $ 200.00
    $ 750.00
    $ 450.00
    $ 450.00
    $ 750.00
    + TRAVEL AND LODGING FOR THE OFFICIALS.

    WORLD TITLES
    1. TOTAL PURSES UP TO $100,000.00
    PROMOTER
    CHAMPION (HIGHER OF 3% OR $1,500.00)
    CHALLENGER (HIGHER OF 3% OR $1,000.00)
    REFEREE
    JUDGES (3 @ $1,200.00)
    IBO BELT
    I.B.O. COMMISSIONER'S STIPEND



    $ 4,500.00
    $ 1,500.00
    $ 1,000.00
    $ 1,500.00
    $ 3,600.00
    $ 1,000.00
    $ 750.00
    _____________



    TOTAL =

    $ 13,850.00
    ===========


    2. TOTAL PURSES $100,000.00 TO $150,000.00
    PROMOTER
    CHAMPION (3% OR $3,000.00) EST.
    CHALLENGER (3% OR $1,500.00) EST.
    REFEREE
    JUDGES (3 @ $1,500.00)
    IBO BELT
    I.B.O. COMMISSIONER'S STIPEND



    $ 5,000.00
    $ 3,000.00
    $ 1,500.00
    $ 2,000.00
    $ 4,500.00
    $ 1,000.00
    $ 750.00
    ____________



    (EST.) TOTAL =

    $17,750.00
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    3. TOTAL PURSES $150,000.00 TO $1,000,000.00
    PROMOTER
    CHAMPION (3% OF PURSE)
    CHALLENGER (3% OF PURSE)
    REFEREE
    JUDGES (3 @ $1,750.00)
    IBO BELT
    I.B.O. COMMISSIONER'S STIPEND



    $ 6,000.00
    ---------
    ---------
    $ 2,250.00
    $ 5,250.00
    $ 1,000.00
    $ 1,000.00






    4. TOTAL PURSES IN EXCESS OF $1,000,000.00
    PROMOTER
    CHAMPION & CHALLENGER (3% OF PURSE)
    REFEREE
    JUDGES (3 @ $2,000.00)
    IBO BELT
    I.B.O. COMMISSIONER'S STIPEND



    $ 7,500.00
    ---------
    $ 2,500.00
    $ 6,000.00
    $ 1,000.00
    $ 1,000.00

    ALL FEES ABOVE ARE EXCLUSIVE OF THE ANNUAL
    PROMOTER’S REGISTRATION FEE ($2,000.00) FOR WORLD TITLES