How much does wilder have to do ??

What does Wilder have to do? He needs to shut his big mouth and finally fight a legit fighter for a change! Wilder is a fraud!

 

4 years in the top ten heavyweights and only fought 1 top ten opponent (Stiverne). .. I think he needs to step up to earn respect.

By contrast Joshua has been in the top ten heavyweights for 2 years and has fought 4 top ten heavyweights (Martin, Breazeale, Takam and Wlad.. who actually wasn't rated in the top ten at the time due to his layoff).

 

Wilder has never taken any risk so he doesn't deserve credit. Fury fought Wlad. Joshua fought Wlad. Wilder has fought 1 top 10 opponent in 39 career fights.
Even David Price took a risk tackling Tony Thompson. It backfired but Wilder wouldn't go near Thompson on the way up.
Then the Povetkin mess, where Wilder didn't have to fly home right away before the WBC ruled on the situation but he did.
Bottom line he's been a pro 8 years plus, he's 32 already, and he has 39 career fights with 1 opponent rated in the top 10. It's very hard to find ANY fighter with the above combination of length of time as a pro, number of pro fights, and age, that has fought such a weak/abysmal resume. In short it stinks.
There is a reason for that - he is not very good.
Fans know this - because despite the constant push from media for him, he is not widely known and he doesn't sell out or get ppl to tune in.
People know he is not the next Tyson. Not even a Hasim Rahman

 

It's pretty simple really, he has to fight opponents of a better standard.

Wlad
Vitali
Haye

All 3 available during Wilder's career, but he didn't call any of them out.

In fact he sparred two, realised he wasn't at their level, got his ass kicked, and ducked them.

Even Tyson Fury.....When he stepped in the ring and called Wilder out, Deontay referred to Fury as a 'Bum' and never once had an interest in fighting him.

The difference with Joshua, is that he only had the option of fighting Wlad in his career.....and he took it straight away.





If Wilder had any interest in fighting Joshua, he'd free up his schedule like Parker has and not arrange any other fight.

 

Let's say you create your own business:
Your Business has 95% market share.......
There's only 1 other business within your market and they have a 5% market share......
The owner of this business offers to merge with yours, offering no financial input but demanding a 50% split of the new business.....

What do you do?

 

I don't know how you feel like this brings up anything I didn't address nor do I see how you think this in meant to bring detail to your vague charge.....everything you have to say is still very vague and oddly enough between the two of us I'm the only one speaking with any detail on the charges you have.

Did you even read my post or did you skim it and assume? I'm starting to assume you don't actually give a **** and just like to hate. Also, are you allergic to reading?

I explained his early career, I explained his attempt to step up, I gave specific examples of specific times he was avoided by specific names.....what else can I do? Do you need me to go to boxrec to look up the ring annual rating for every year Wilder was active and justify every top ten that ever graced said list?

You clearly can't offer up a single specific instance you're interested in learning the details of you just wants to cry in vague terms about your unfounded assumption. All you want to do is point to surface information and talk about your surface conclusion. Every time I beckon for detail you sidestep. I provide detail anyway and you make claims like the detail already provided doesn't make that claim sound goofy as ****. I I say the sky's blue because of refraction the very next thing out of yer mouth ought not be antagonistically asking me why the sky is blue. It doesn't do anything but make you seem much dumber than you are. Read and respond appropriately for ****'s sake.

No, it doesn't mean he's being protected it means he's struggling to be taken seriously. Think about it...look at every thread on this forum addressing Wilder in any way. He isn't struggling to be taken seriously? He doesn't garner at least three unfounded hate posts to every positive? He isn't seen as a clown or a joke in the division? Oh but it's different when signing fights is it? Oh but it were different when starting out were it? It was different at some point in his career?

You're basing you entire opinion off the assumption that someone must have opened doors for him, and even though I gave plenty of examples of doors being closed on him all you have to say to that can be summed up with simply you assume someone has given him a fair shake at some point and he didn't jump on it. You've not a single detailed instance to bring up, but yo 39-0, safe assumption init doe? Are you ****ing shitting me? No, not a safe assumption, you're being an idiot, read a book on dixie. Who is this mysterious provider of a decent path and why the **** haven't they exposed that story? Exactly, it's not even a remotely plausible explanation, y'all are just made short sighted and stupid by you own hate.

 

You see what I mean. These guys can't handle making valid points or following along simple ideas. They read Wilder and they lose their ****, end of. I'd love to say if he clears out AJ or some such, but I'm not sure. Wilder might have to bring in new fans to have fans because these fans hate the **** out of him.

The saddest part is they have this gay circlejerk going on where one says something in response to a Wilder relative prompt that doesn't actually make any sense or even address the concerns of the prompt but is clearly negative toward Wilder they'll go ahead and pretend like it was a quality post. So you end up with ******* who constantly put their own feet in their mouths and shy from anything resembling details being deluded into believing they're making sense when in fact they are just appealing to the henhouse mentality of this mental midget of a forum.

They don't even acknowledge how emotional Wilder makes them....and look at this thread.

 

All he has to do is beat someone actually relevant. It's not even rocket science.
Ortiz, Ruiz, Whyte, Joshua, Parker, Pulev, Povetkin, Miller. Hell, fight Mansour.
There are no shortage of top guys that he could fight.

 

thanks for that one bud.

 

FFS!
Couldn’t someone have warned me?

If you can’t understand the reasoning it’s your problem but I’ve explained it easily enough so time to move on.

Don’t bother with a reply, I won’t read it but here’s a word of advice.
You don’t win debates by drowning the opposition in šhït

 

Wilder will have to keep KO ing fighters hopefully better quality ones Povitkin? Ortiz ?.Luckily for him he does hit very hard. at HW that is often enough.

 

If he was shouting out a more accurate Bum Squad than Bomb Squad I would dislike him less.

 

Beating Ortiz would be a good start. That alone could have many see him as a genuine threat to AJ depending upon how impressive he looks doing it. But even then some will accuse him of just beating on an old man just like some accuse Joshua of beating an old and faded Wlad.

Wilder just needs to keep fighting the kind of good quality opposition that he's avoided so far and be impressive while doing it which is easier said than done when you consider who he has struggled against.

As for deserving 50/50, the only way he gets that is if Wilder can bring in US PPV money because without it he will always be the B Side by a big margin.

 

Jesus, this forum is a very emotional forum with the average cognitive capacity of a pubic louse.

I guess this is an open letter to any who would step to me. None of you will ever make me feel defeated by crying at me. I don't know what kind of crazy goofy microsociety you lot have going on here, but

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. If you can't argue a point, and you're getting emotional, hide it from me....that should be obvious.

I won't name them I mean I can't hide the ***** a few posts back's pussdom for him but I won't point out the other two pussies. There are three of you now and if you're reading this all three know who you are. I have no idea how you convince yourselves admitting to having nothing to say that actually addresses the very specific things I say but are very upset I have the perspective that I've shared will never make me wrong it just makes you a ninny. You can't get all pissed off and tell me that I'm wrong then decline to tell me where and also expect to have some sort of impact on me. I'm just going to treat you like the semi ******ed children that you act like.

 

How does he get respect? He can stop this fantasy of himself deserving 50-50 w/ AJ for starters. Who the draw is here is crystal clear. Who has fought the better opponent, also a no brainer.

if Wilder wants to be the HW Andre Berto, that's his prerogative.